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TDI Power Enhancements Discussions about increasing the power of your TDI engine. i.e. chips, injectors, powerboxes, clutches, etc. Handling, suspensions, wheels, type discussion should be put into the "Upgrades (non TDI Engine related)" forum. Non TDI vehicle related postings will be moved or removed. Please note the Performance Disclaimer.

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Old December 2nd, 2010, 05:39   #16
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I always thought transaxles (and engines) void of lubricant should have a BIG dayglow tag afixed to them stating "This Unit Has No Oil and Must Be Filled With Proper Lubricant Before Use" (or similar wording). It should be common sense to check, but NEVER underestimate the power of human stupidity. You are better protected if you put such a tag on the unit, because if it comes back to you, you warned them and it is their fault.

I bought a used transaxle once and it had such a tag, but it was still full of lube! (I guess they forgot to drain it).

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Old December 2nd, 2010, 05:39   #17
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Edited as the shop has started to make payments to put this right.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 05:52   #18
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I suppose I should've clarified further in the first post. This trans came from RyanP, was installed by a shop, locked up shortly after installation, then was pulled and shipped to me to see what happened.

Anytime a trans is ran, pulled, drained, and then shipped, it will always be "wet" inside. The first pic I posted of a 5 speed that was shipped to me for upgrading is a perfect example; notice the coating of oil on everything even though it was empty when it got to me. This 6 speed was BONE dry inside with the acrid odor of burnt gear oil.


At bare minimum it needs all new bearings and syncros. Hopefully a brass brush will clean all the crap off the gears and they'll be ok. Whether that's cost effective or not, now that's a different story.
you may want to do a file test on the gears before you order any bearings...a good hardened gear will shrug off a file stroke but a gear that has lost it's hardness will take a cut from a standard file....
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 06:35   #19
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 07:09   #20
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Lets turn this frown upside down....I'll take the gears if they are intact and send them to get cryo treated. I got an R32 awd trans for that!
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 07:17   #21
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Edited as the shop has started to make payments to put this right.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 07:56   #22
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I know Matt didn't run his tranny dry and I'm sure this is one of his customers. Yes, you would think that it would be common sense to double check fluid levels before starting the car and driving it

So, can you bring her back to life Matt?
Common sense is not that common!
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 09:32   #23
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Edited as the shop has started to make payments to put this right.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 11:19   #24
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The fact that it was dry when you took it apart was most likely from the extreme heat generated while driving it with only 14 drops of fluid in it.. I've taken apart a few rear axles that were run dry, dry like pull the diff cover to drain, put the cover back on and drive until it stops, and it's the same thing. bone dry like it never had fluid and the nastiest small of burnt gear oil..

I bet it was drained prior to shipping and the shop just never bothered to check it..
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 11:27   #25
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Edited as the shop has started to make payments to put this right.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 11:46   #26
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Ha ha...seven people viewing ...it's like the onlooker delay's when there is a gruesome wreck scene
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 19:41   #27
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Props to you Ryan! This isn't your burden, not by a long shot.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 20:15   #28
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Oooh big install fail.....
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 20:35   #29
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I once had a pickup that had it's gearbox go, had it replaced by the same people who service our HGV's and 300 miles later it was scrap.

No oil. As a matter of fact they'd lost the filler sealing bolt too.

Wasn't impressed.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 20:53   #30
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fwiw....
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=301150
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