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Old Yesterday, 17:39   #3886
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VW seems to be moving head long into EVs as does BMW.

VW just took a $25 billion financial hit and keeps moving forward. Simply pointing out the real strengths of the "legacy" auto companies.

Tesla is struggling to ramp up production capacity on a new model. Not an easy task for Tesla. But the "legacy" auto companies have all done that regularly and very successfully.
Until there's a mainstream EV on a dealer lot with >200 mile range, access to a national fast-charging network and a conventional appearance it's largely just FUD. There's a reason GM decided to make an electric Geo instead of an electric Camero. It's obvious that there are intentional design elements intended to prevent cars like the Bolt from competing effectively in the mainstream market.

The LAMEs still want to sell ICE as long as possible. Promising future EV developments is one way to stir up FUD and maintain the status quo. It's a game of chicken between the LAMEs and progress. You can accept new technology too late to recover. Just ask Blockbuster.
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New technology frequently fails to deliver on it's transformational first promises. Sometimes it is a total failure, sometimes just a niche product.

Right now, the Tesla model 3 is unobtainium. But Anita will get a new 2018 Camry for about half the price of any Tesla tomorrow or the next day. And she will be very happy with it, because it will do anything she needs/wants at a price she is willing to pay.
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They'll be scrambling to get viable BEV's to market. Cars that they can produce in significant numbers, sell at a profit, and consumers will choose over a model 3.
Do you mean like scrambling to lose money on every unit - just to compete with Tesla's "profitable" Model 3, and purposely hemorrhage cash to gain a larger share of a market the size of less than 1% of all vehicles being sold?

Do you also mean selling BEV's in "significant" numbers like the total of 345 Model 3's that Tesla delivered last month?

https://insideevs.com/wp-content/upl...er-vfinal2.png

As I mentioned earlier. If there is a "viable" market for EV's, rest assured, the major automakers will take it seriously.
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Do you also mean selling BEV's in "significant" numbers like the total of 345 Model 3's that Tesla delivered last month?



As I mentioned earlier. If there is a "viable" market for EV's, rest assured, the major automakers will take it seriously.
No, I meant significant numbers closer to 5,000 cars per week. Which is what I expect Tesla will be producing in a matter of months.

It seems most of the major automakers have finally begun to see what the future holds- but they gave Tesla a pretty massive head start.
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Volkswagen is filming commercials (in California, of course) for new EVs. I think ANY of the larger car companies can and will blow past Tesla fairly quickly if the market is there.
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Funny how Tesla doesn't have to spend a penny on advertising, yet still got nearly a half million pre orders on the model 3.
Unlike at VW, world domination isn't the overarching goal at Tesla. I think they'll hold a significant niche in the EV market for many years. Very much like the iPhone does in the mobile phone market.
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