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Old January 10th, 2012, 05:11   #16
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I don't understand why it wouldn't fit when the top CC is offered with a 3.6l gasser. Is that not a larger engine than the 3.0l diesel? I suppose the engine compartment is layed differently but at least on paper it should work.
The transverse cars use the VR layout, a much narrower engine than a V. It would take a lot of work to get a big V6 under the hood of the CC, and make an already nose-heavy car even worse. They'd have to detune it so much that you may as well just use a more powerful 4 cylinder that is already available.

The 3.6L VR6 gasser is much smaller than the 3.0L V6 TDI.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 05:15   #17
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Having unnecessary knowledge does not make one smart. It just gives lots of opportunities to be that annoying smartass guy on internet forums.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 05:24   #18
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I don't understand why it wouldn't fit when the top CC is offered with a 3.6l gasser. Is that not a larger engine than the 3.0l diesel? I suppose the engine compartment is layed differently but at least on paper it should work.
No, it isn't.

The 3.6 is a VR6 - which is an engine specifically designed to shove 6 cylinders in a space where a 4-cylinder goes. The V angle is 10.6 degrees on that engine.

The 3.0 TDI is a normal V6 - and a 90 degree one at that - which won't fit in a Golf or anything based on it, and still meet crash safety standards.

Edit: And I've clearly been beaten to it. Multitasking FTL.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 11:50   #19
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Anybody catch a whiff of when the Q5 might be dressed with a TDI in the U.S.?
I thought that would be in the next batch of offerings from Audi.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 11:55   #20
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Anybody catch a whiff of when the Q5 might be dressed with a TDI in the U.S.?
I thought that would be in the next batch of offerings from Audi.
They (Audi people) told us two years ago the Q5 was coming with a TDI under the hood, as well as a proper manual transmission option. So far, nothing has changed: A3 and Q7 only, automatic only, and the former is FWD only.

So whatever 'whiff' you get, it probably is not going to be as good as it smells.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 13:06   #21
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Sounds like you've been talking to my wife!
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I would love an S5 with a turned up 2.0 TDI. I suppose I could settle for the V6 TDI though.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 15:36   #23
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I've stockpiled parts for my current cars. I'll drive them until the wheels fall off, rebuild them and repeat the process. I don't appreciate VWoA pushing the diesel as the "premium" product. I'm not going to put 75,000 miles per year on a $30,000 car. The Mark 3/4 diesels were fun econoboxes that were different. I liked that. Now, 42mpg in a diesel costs me twice as much as a entry level 40mpg gassers.
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The thing is, to meet US emissions, you're stuck paying a premium price, so you then get all the premium options so that it doesn't look like a ripoff.

The way I'd look at it is, it'll be a LONG time before it costs more than a car payment per month to keep a properly maintained ALH Mk4 with a manual on the road. Until THAT point, it's still cost effective.
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I've stockpiled parts for my current cars. I'll drive them until the wheels fall off, rebuild them and repeat the process. I don't appreciate VWoA pushing the diesel as the "premium" product. I'm not going to put 75,000 miles per year on a $30,000 car. The Mark 3/4 diesels were fun econoboxes that were different. I liked that. Now, 42mpg in a diesel costs me twice as much as a entry level 40mpg gassers.
Agreed. The 'economy' part of owning a TDI exists in the older cars it seems. Newer ones, not so much. That said, my 8 year old Passat set me back almost $30k
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The 'economy' part of owning a car mostly exists in older stuff.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 07:21   #27
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Great... I can save some money on fuel in my $85,000 economy car.
Ummm, in this case it is NOT about fuel MPG. It is about PERFORMANCE with good MPG. The torque on the 3.0L alone is worth it. Besides the maintenance of a diesel is far less than a gasser. The longevity as well of the engine is worth it too.

BTW, the A6 is about $55K and the A8 is the $85K car. Compared to Mercedes the A6 is FAR better loaded and the A8 absolutely a different class of vehicle. You will even be able to get the L version.
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Besides the maintenance of a diesel is far less than a gasser. The longevity as well of the engine is worth it too.

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There are some associations you can’t shake. For me, one of them is the decision by then German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder to dispense with tradition and choose an Audi A8 for his official car (until that point, a Mercedes-Benz sedan had always served in this capacity). As a result, even …

The Audi A8 first appeared in Europe in 1994 as the successor to the Audi V8, although it did not make it to the U.S. until the 1997 model year. The current (third) generation A8 was unveiled in 2009 and went on sale in late 2010 as a 2011 model.

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