Canadian Pricing for Passat 2013 TDI Highline (DSG, Sport Pkg)

val23 · Aug 14, 2013

Hey all,
I was quoted the following price (Drive Away Price) for a 2013 Passat TDI Highline (DSG + Sport Pkg) and wondering whether this is a good deal or not. The pricing in CAnada is much more than USA so just curious what everyone thinks.

The Drive Away Price I was quote is 38700$. should I go for it?

Thanks!!
Val

vw_norm · Aug 15, 2013

A quick currency converter check gave the exchange rate at .967, making 38,700.00 CAD = 37,423.85 USD. Seems high to me. Unless you're getting a lot more options than in the States, I would keep looking. Plus you'd think that they would be discounting the 2013s somewhat to make room for the 2014s that are coming very soon. For that money, maybe waiting for a '14 is better.
So I went to a Montreal VW site and built a loaded Passat. You guys got some killer taxes up there - almost 6K in taxes and fees. Maybe the price you got quoted isn't so bad after all since this version came out to almost 44K all in!.

rustycat · Aug 15, 2013

Hard to know. I do know that cars are silly more expensive in Canada than the US. I have a friend that has bought his last 3 cars in the states and driven them back to Canada, and saved a huge amount over what he would have to pay locally. But, the Dealer network in Canada will not do warranty work on cars bought in the US, so he has always bought cars that are out of the warranty window, as there is no advantage to buying a car still under warranty if the dealers won't honor it. Like just about everything in Canada, it just costs more than the US.

Ptplayers · Aug 15, 2013

val23 said:
Hey all,
I was quoted the following price (Drive Away Price) for a 2013 Passat TDI Highline (DSG + Sport Pkg) and wondering whether this is a good deal or not. The pricing in CAnada is much more than USA so just curious what everyone thinks.
The Drive Away Price I was quote is 38700$. should I go for it?
Thanks!!
Val

whole sale price from car cost canada is 38,790.00 with sport and dsg including taxes

Retail Price* Wholesale Price**
Base $34,550.00 $32,189.00
Freight $1,395.00 $1,395.00
Optional equipment selected
- BLACK (A1A1) $0.00 $0.00
- STANDARD PAINT (-PAINT) $0.00 $0.00
- TITAN BLACK, VIENNA LEATHER SEAT TRIM (HX) $0.00 $0.00
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- SPORT PKG -inc: 18" x 8" "Bristol" alloy wheels w/all-season tires, carbon interior trim, paddle shifters, rear spoiler (W84) $700.00 $644.00
Totals including all items above $36,745.00 $34,328.00

APT · Aug 15, 2013

USD->CAN exchange rate has little to do with vehicle pricing differences.

Canuck64 · Aug 15, 2013

val23 said:
Hey all,
I was quoted the following price (Drive Away Price) for a 2013 Passat TDI Highline (DSG + Sport Pkg) and wondering whether this is a good deal or not. The pricing in CAnada is much more than USA so just curious what everyone thinks.

The Drive Away Price I was quote is 38700$. should I go for it?

Thanks!!
Val

Is that the total sale price before or after taxes, freight, A/C tax, admin fees, license fees and/or finance costs?

Rico567 · Aug 15, 2013

So- does any one know why fundamentally the same car as I bought in St. Louis costs around 10K more in the Great White North?

Nebelwerfer · Aug 15, 2013

Rico567 said:
So- does any one know why fundamentally the same car as I bought in St. Louis costs around 10K more in the Great White North?

It has to be imported, it's a different gauge set (all metric) and some other odds and sods.... and then theres freight, A/C tax, admin fees, license fees and don't forget the HST.

If the OP plays his cards right, he can get them to knock off a few thousand. I got $4000 knocked off and some winter tires thrown in.

Shop around val23. I was more than willing to drive over 1200km to get a better deal and told the dealer that. They then were more than willing to talk turkey with me.

Good luck!

val23 · Aug 15, 2013

Canuck64 said:
Is that the total sale price before or after taxes, freight, A/C tax, admin fees, license fees and/or finance costs?

Includes everything.. it is the FINAL FINAL price that we would pay.

val23 · Aug 15, 2013

Ptplayers said:
whole sale price from car cost canada is 38,790.00 with sport and dsg including taxes

Retail Price* Wholesale Price**
Base $34,550.00 $32,189.00
Freight $1,395.00 $1,395.00
Optional equipment selected
- BLACK (A1A1) $0.00 $0.00
- STANDARD PAINT (-PAINT) $0.00 $0.00
- TITAN BLACK, VIENNA LEATHER SEAT TRIM (HX) $0.00 $0.00
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- SPORT PKG -inc: 18" x 8" "Bristol" alloy wheels w/all-season tires, carbon interior trim, paddle shifters, rear spoiler (W84) $700.00 $644.00
Totals including all items above $36,745.00 $34,328.00

so does that mean i should go for the deal? Gotta call them back tomorrow.. what do you think?

Canuck64 · Aug 15, 2013

val23 said:
Includes everything.. it is the FINAL FINAL price that we would pay.

I would say that is a very good price. I paid $35,600 for the car and with freight, air conditioning tax, admin fee and HST the total came to $43,000 and that does not include the cost of financing.

Cogen Man · Aug 15, 2013

Rico567 said:
So- does any one know why fundamentally the same car as I bought in St. Louis costs around 10K more in the Great White North?

In a word, the government. In two words. Government taxes.

Cogen Man · Aug 15, 2013

val23 said:
Includes everything.. it is the FINAL FINAL price that we would pay.

Thats a good out the door price Val. I say get it. Nice rig.

Canuck64 · Aug 15, 2013

Here is my breakdown.

Looks like we have to same car.
My base price was $34,550
Nav package $1250
Sport package $700
Dealer Discount -$500
Total Sale price $$35,985 (the 9 looked like a 6)
Plus
Freight $1395
Fed Air cond tax $100
Admin fee $199
Globali.com registration $299
Tire stewardship fee $28.20
HST $4,981.00

Are you financing and if so, what rate are you getting? My rate was 4.99%.

Canuck64 · Aug 15, 2013

Rico567 said:
So- does any one know why fundamentally the same car as I bought in St. Louis costs around 10K more in the Great White North?

My wife works at a US based store and the mark up on merchandise is between 30-50% depending on the product. They say it is due to duty and higher employee costs.

Cogen Man · Aug 15, 2013

Canuck64 said:
My wife works at a US based store and the mark up on merchandise is between 30-50% depending on the product. They say it is due to duty and higher employee costs.

http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/episodes/2013/02/price-tag-confidential.html

A good Market Place vid.

DerekS · Aug 16, 2013

2014 Canadian pricing

If you order a 2014, the TDI Highline includes Nav. The only option is the Sport Package for an extra $730. Total List Price inc. Sport Package = $35,880 + PDI/FRT+ applicable taxes.

dlb · Aug 16, 2013

Did you try carsaver.ca ..... free service. A few clicks and you have a very competitive price (at least according to the site) Worth a shot .... Good luck.

val23 · Aug 16, 2013

dlb said:
Did you try carsaver.ca ..... free service. A few clicks and you have a very competitive price (at least according to the site) Worth a shot .... Good luck.

yeah i did... they are quoting 40149 final price which is higher than mine. I think they are trying to clear out for the 2014 model.

Trvln Canuk · Aug 16, 2013

My dealer in Brantford told me yesterday that the 2014 Passat will not be out in Canada until Nov - Dec.

unixb0y · Aug 16, 2013

Trvln Canuk said:
My dealer in Brantford told me yesterday that the 2014 Passat will not be out in Canada until Nov - Dec.

I ordered my 2013 in July 2012.

Didn't get it until October 15th. So to me that seems plausible.

mattfrayage · Aug 16, 2013

rustycat said:
Hard to know. I do know that cars are silly more expensive in Canada than the US. I have a friend that has bought his last 3 cars in the states and driven them back to Canada, and saved a huge amount over what he would have to pay locally. But, the Dealer network in Canada will not do warranty work on cars bought in the US, so he has always bought cars that are out of the warranty window, as there is no advantage to buying a car still under warranty if the dealers won't honor it. Like just about everything in Canada, it just costs more than the US.

so if an American were to buy a Canadian car, would it have no warranty as well? or is this a problem that applies one way but not the other?
supposedly Canada may get a 4motion JSW/golf wagon as a 2015.5/2016 that the US may not and I was wondering how hard importation of a Canadian car is

VernK · Aug 16, 2013

Will be the same problem.

Yours
Vern

Ptplayers · Aug 19, 2013

val23 said:
so does that mean i should go for the deal? Gotta call them back tomorrow.. what do you think?

Hi sorry was up north this weekend and no internet access.

It sure looks like a good deal .

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