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Old November 29th, 2014, 15:27   #1
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Default The Worst Oil Change I've Ever Done

Decided to do my first oil change today as I was within 100km of the interval. What an unbelievable pain it ended up being. Draining the oil was pretty straight forward and only required a 19mm socket, but removing the filter was ridiculous.

There are at least three different coolant hoses/electrical cables in the way, as well as the cable for the block heater. Two of them are mounted and have to be freed before they can be moved aside. Once that's done they still can't quite be completely removed from the path of the filter cap and physically removing the filter takes a lot of fighting.

All said and done this oil change took a good two hours to complete and in the end the underside of my car was a complete mess. Leaning towards having the dealer do the change next time as I really did not need this BS.

Anyone else tired changing the EA288 oil filter and had better luck or have better ideas on how to do it? It's a shame VW didn't maintain the tradition of topside filter mounts.
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Old November 29th, 2014, 16:49   #2
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Thank you for the report. More reason that free oil changes are great. I am nearing my first oil change and will happily take it to the dealer.
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Old November 29th, 2014, 17:58   #3
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Thank you for the report. More reason that free oil changes are great. I am nearing my first oil change and will happily take it to the dealer.
It only looks great and enticing till you run into a nightmare. If you have a great deal of confidence in your dealer only then I would allow them to touch my car, I say this from experience.

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Old November 29th, 2014, 18:05   #4
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...productDetails

would something like this be of use?

need someone with access to VW maintenance info that calls out tools.
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Old November 29th, 2014, 18:29   #5
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would something like this be of use?

need someone with access to VW maintenance info that calls out tools.
How does that work? And does it work with a TDI?
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Old November 29th, 2014, 19:07   #6
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Just curious @njiska, how many km on your car?
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Old November 29th, 2014, 19:22   #7
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How does that work? And does it work with a TDI?
That tool is for the VR6, 2.0T, & 2.5L. I have one for the wife's car. It will only work on an oil filter housing that faces down and has the drain on it.

That oil drain widget screws into the filter housing drain and allows one to drain the oil out of the housing without making a huge mess. Then one removes the emptied filter housing.

The Assenmacher tool is expensive. MetalNerd has one that is quite a bit cheaper.
http://www.metalnerd.com/cat17.htm

ECS also carries that tool.
http://www.ecstuning.com/News/VW_25L...singDrainTool/

http://www.ecstuning.com/News/VW_25L...inTool/ES8616/

ECS has video links that shows one how to use it.
http://www.ecstuning.com/News/VW_25L...6/Video324-HD/

http://www.ecstuning.com/News/VW_25L...6/Video318-HD/

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Old November 29th, 2014, 20:57   #8
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Just curious @njiska, how many km on your car?
14897 km when I did the change. Just over 15000km now.
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Old November 30th, 2014, 05:44   #9
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That tool is for the VR6, 2.0T, & 2.5L. I have one for the wife's car. It will only work on an oil filter housing that faces down and has the drain on it.

That oil drain widget screws into the filter housing drain and allows one to drain the oil out of the housing without making a huge mess. Then one removes the emptied filter housing.

The Assenmacher tool is expensive. MetalNerd has one that is quite a bit cheaper.
http://www.metalnerd.com/cat17.htm

ECS also carries that tool.
http://www.ecstuning.com/News/VW_25L...singDrainTool/

http://www.ecstuning.com/News/VW_25L...inTool/ES8616/

ECS has video links that shows one how to use it.
http://www.ecstuning.com/News/VW_25L...6/Video324-HD/

http://www.ecstuning.com/News/VW_25L...6/Video318-HD/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1SwwbJ-f-8 see 16:00 on the video.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=422700 or this discussion

Is the filter cover on the new engine like the one on the VR6, or does it need a new tool?
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Glad you had the nerve to do this yourself.
I took advantage of the first free oil change at 8000 km and even the tech took 1.5 hours to do it so you're not that far off.
Very disappointed to se they couldn't keep the the filter housing where it has served us well in 3 generations.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1SwwbJ-f-8 see 16:00 on the video.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=422700 or this discussion

Is the filter cover on the new engine like the one on the VR6, or does it need a new tool?
The filter housing has a moulded plastic 32mm hex head that can be easily removed with a standard socket. The centre of the hex does appear to look the same as the connection for the tool BKmetz linked to and might actually make the entire job a lot easier.

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Glad you had the nerve to do this yourself.
I took advantage of the first free oil change at 8000 km and even the tech took 1.5 hours to do it so you're not that far off.
Very disappointed to se they couldn't keep the the filter housing where it has served us well in 3 generations.

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It bugs me as well as I have a friend with an A4 Jetta who has an air powered extractor. I'm the only one of like 5 TDIs in our circle to have to go under the car. It also doesn't help that we couldn't find adequate space to fit a jack and stands, so i had to do it on ramps.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1SwwbJ-f-8 see 16:00 on the video.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=422700 or this discussion

Is the filter cover on the new engine like the one on the VR6, or does it need a new tool?
As I myself have not seen the underside of the new EA288 engine I cannot verify if the oil drain adapter will fit. However, since VW already uses the same oil filter housing design for the VR6, 2.0T, and the 2.5, logic SHOULD dictate that the oil drain adapter will fit the EA288 as the oil filter faces down instead of up. It sure looks like it would fit.

We will have to wait for someone who own an EA288 and the oil drain adapter to verify fitment for us.

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this is so sad. so not looking forward to do this on my own.

might have to find a trust worthy independent shop and have them do the labor (bring my own oil and filter)
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It only looks great and enticing till you run into nightmare. If you have a great deal of confidence in your dealer only then I would allow them to touch my car, I say this from experience.
I wouldn't characterize it as a great deal of confidence, but I have enough confidence that they can change the oil properly. I have two other cars, so if they screw it up, they will have plenty of time to fix it. Mild concern that I will likely be the first 2015 for the dealer.
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If you install the oil filter drain tool, it will at least minimize the mess, however you still need to let it drain a while.
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