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VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta (99.5-~2005), Golf(99.5-2006), and New Beetle(98-2006). Both VE and PD engines are covered here.

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Old October 1st, 2019, 20:24   #1
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Default Couple of quick questions on glow plugs BEW

Does anyone have info on how to determine which glow plugs I have in my BEW? I remember having a recall done probably around 2007 or 2008 at which time the ECU was re-flashed to accommodate the new plugs. I can't don't remember if this was an update from the original plugs or if this was an update to the update to the original plugs...weren't there two updates from original?

I've since acquired a Malone Tune. I think it's time to replace my glow plugs and harness but want to make sure I get the correct version (steel vs ceramic; 7v vs 5v) as I don't want to re-flash again if I don't need to. I already have a new harness.

Now that it's colder, I'm getting plug codes that I can clear but then they periodically show up again unsolicited. I live in the PNW so it's not a big deal but if it gets really cold, I should be prepared.

Thanks up front!
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Old October 2nd, 2019, 10:12   #2
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Search threads started by MOGolf; he did a write-up on the BEW GP recalls. I had it written down somewhere, but don't know where I put it.
N 105 916 07 is the part # for the 5n steelies installed with the first recall that was superseded by the 7v GP's with the steel sheathing. The latter I do not know.
I don't have the factory installed ceramic's anymore. I had kept them for a while.
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Old October 2nd, 2019, 10:50   #3
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Ask Malone, I'm guessing they keep records.
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Old October 3rd, 2019, 21:39   #4
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Okay, will search MOGolf.


Bob -- Malone keeping records on what? I didn't follow you there...


Is this something I can find out with VCDS?
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I think it’s stamped in very small letters on the side of the glow plug itself. I have several laying on a shelf I’ll double check.
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Old October 4th, 2019, 05:13   #6
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The tuners may not change that section (glow 'palpitation') of the software unless you tell them to, although I always tell them which plugs are being used. In the case of the current crop, I would just want the newest 7v NGK plugs anyway (note these plugs are NOT the same as the 7v NGK plugs the BRM engines left the factory with!).

But otherwise, removing a plug and seeing which one it is will be the only way to know for certain, and they are all marked.
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Old October 4th, 2019, 08:45   #7
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Okay, will search MOGolf.


Bob -- Malone keeping records on what? I didn't follow you there...


Is this something I can find out with VCDS?
Records of before and after data for your ECU. They should at least be able to tell you what flavor glow plugs the ECU expects.
VCDS might (should) show that info, IDK what value to look for.

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Old October 4th, 2019, 09:34   #8
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Does anyone have info on how to determine which glow plugs I have in my BEW? I remember having a recall done probably around 2007 or 2008 at which time the ECU was re-flashed to accommodate the new plugs. I can't don't remember if this was an update from the original plugs or if this was an update to the update to the original plugs...weren't there two updates from original?

I've since acquired a Malone Tune. I think it's time to replace my glow plugs and harness but want to make sure I get the correct version (steel vs ceramic; 7v vs 5v) as I don't want to re-flash again if I don't need to. I already have a new harness.

Now that it's colder, I'm getting plug codes that I can clear but then they periodically show up again unsolicited. I live in the PNW so it's not a big deal but if it gets really cold, I should be prepared.

Thanks up front!

KERMA sells the updated glow plugs along with the updated glow plug module. That is where I got mine from. Check there too


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Old October 4th, 2019, 18:49   #9
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Will play around with VCDS this weekend. I'm too squeamish to take out a GP unless I'm really ready!


I may just replace the harness being I have one and see how that does.


I cleared the codes (which I think were attributed to me turning the key too quickly without GP engagement) and they haven't returned. I may be worrying about nothing.
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