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Old July 28th, 2013, 23:11   #1
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I know its July, but I always plan ahead.
I plan on running 16" studless tires this winter on our new Passat as they are half the price of the 18's, I see lots of 16" rims from older Passat's on craigslist, what offset and width am I looking for?
What is everyone's favorite snow tire for wet thick tread packing snow?

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Old July 29th, 2013, 07:19   #2
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This does not answer your question, but I have concerns with the stock tires. I live in Southcentral PA. Although we haven't had a lot of snow the last two winters, the winter before was rough. We usually get one or two Noreasters a winter that dump 12"-15" of snow. Living in rural Lancaster county, my area is prone to snow drifts as well.

My experience with the 2013 Passat tires bought in March is not positive. I had the same issue with my factory Xterra tires as well. On the highway during rain, the car/SUV has/had a tendency to pull.

I am not talking about going 80 MPH in a down pour, but slowing down to 50-55MPH during a normal rain.

I bought BF Goodrich A/T for the Xterra and noticed a huge difference. I am researching tires that will do the same for the Passat, but not effect the MPG negatively.

Any recommendations on a good all around tire for the Passat for snow/rain?
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5-112 bolt pattern.

Shameless pitch: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=387949
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Old July 29th, 2013, 08:47   #4
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B6- 16" are 7" wide with a 45mm offset. 215/55r16

B5 Passats 16" are 7" wide and 37mm offset

Which snow tires relevant to this thread? for a 215/60r16 size....
Firestone Winterforce are a great tire. Very loud and squirmy though.


Of course you have your Blizzak WS70 and Michelin Xice Xi3 (Studless snow & ice)

There's also the Hankook Winter I*Pike (sadly no General Altimax Arctic) which also gets good reviews for studdable tires
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Old July 29th, 2013, 09:23   #5
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thanks for the reply's, most likely go the 215/55r16's as they are barly over $125 per tire

I have ran the following on my Civic's

1. Michelin Xice 1st generation- great quiet tire but not enough tread for the nasty stuff

2. Hankook Ipike studded, awesome tire- pushed snow with the headlights and never got stuck but they are super loud and I lost 10 MPG with them.

I am leaning toward the Michelin X ice 3rd generation as I really don't want my wife driving this new clean sexy car in the super nasty's anyway
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Old July 29th, 2013, 09:42   #6
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My wife commutes about 170 miles, roundtrip, 3 days a week. The General Altimax Arctics that we installed never let her down! Reasonably quiet, great on snow--I mean really great-- and way above average on ice. Got them with wheels from Tirerack.
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Generals Artic Claws studded at 215-60-16 worked great on the passat this winter, pretty cheap tire for it's performance.

I can't spend the coin on blizzaks again (had them on th jetta for three seasons 25K and they are done).

I belive the rims i tossed on the passat at 17ET45 and they look pretty bad ass.
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This does not answer your question, but I have concerns with the stock tires. I live in Southcentral PA. Although we haven't had a lot of snow the last two winters, the winter before was rough. We usually get one or two Noreasters a winter that dump 12"-15" of snow. Living in rural Lancaster county, my area is prone to snow drifts as well.

My experience with the 2013 Passat tires bought in March is not positive. I had the same issue with my factory Xterra tires as well. On the highway during rain, the car/SUV has/had a tendency to pull.

I am not talking about going 80 MPH in a down pour, but slowing down to 50-55MPH during a normal rain.

I bought BF Goodrich A/T for the Xterra and noticed a huge difference. I am researching tires that will do the same for the Passat, but not effect the MPG negatively.

Any recommendations on a good all around tire for the Passat for snow/rain?
I had a very good experience with Nokians on my previous Passat. Excellent in both rain and snow

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If you're looking for a winter tire that doesn't dramatically kill mpg, then you need a Low Rolling Resistance Tire. Such LRR includes:

- Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2, WR G2 & WR G3
- Michelin Xice Xi3
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I looked at all of those, and the tread blocks are just too small for nasty wet snow. Maybe the R2?? This is me in my 1985 diesel golf trying to leave for work at 5am on a snowy December morning back in 2006 needless to say I had to jump into my Toyota truck

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I looked at all of those, and the tread blocks are just too small for nasty wet snow. This is me in my 1985 diesel golf trying to leave for work at 5am on a snowy December morning back in 2006
In your case... if you're using the stock (on a Passat S) 215/60r16... then the Firestone Winterforce will be a good candidate.

I had them on my old MK4. And I'm not kidding about it being loud.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....el=Winterforce

Can't really think of other snow tires that are knobby like the Winterforce.

If you're going 215/55r16... General Altimax Arctic is a solid choice also.
http://generaltire.com/tires/winter/altimax-artic#Specs

I ran these before.... great tire all around, but very squirmy in the dry

There may be Gislaved
http://www.gislaved-tires.com/genera...frost-100.html
where you may have to hit up a Volvo dealer to order a set.

The General Altimax Arctic are actually re-labeled Gislaved Nord Frost 3
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Found some stock vw 16" 5x112 jetta rims on craigslist $100 bucks- will they fit ok?
leaning toward the Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 that should bite ok and still give great MPG.
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the MKV 16"...

6.5" has ET50
7" has ET45

unfortunately, have no idea what the width and offset is on the 12+ Passat 16" steelies

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6.5" with ET 45
http://www.ebay.com/itm/16-2012-013-...af2ba4&vxp=mtr
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I've used Hakka's for many years now and they have rarely let me down. We've got Hakka Rs on the Passat now.

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I've used Hakka's for many years now and they have rarely let me down. We've got Hakka Rs on the Passat now.

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THe only time Hakka's have let me down is climbing the steep hills to my house... this is the RSI version. I should move somewhere less steep.

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