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Old June 11th, 2018, 09:11   #1
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Default Head Gasket Replace at 200 K?

Hello all, I am about to tear into the ole ALH and do the high mileage T belt job and pull apart the intake manifold and do the water pump and all the studs and the motor mounts, maybe the cam sprocket as well if if looks fatigued.

I was wondering if at 200 K it if a decent idea to just do the head gasket while I'm in there?

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Old June 11th, 2018, 09:20   #2
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If no issue with it I wouldn't touch it (headgasket).
Cam sprocket fatigue? Not unless someone has gotten real rough with the chisel method of loosening it for TB job I don't know how/why it should have any problem.
200k really isnt "high" miles...
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Old June 11th, 2018, 09:34   #3
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200k is just getting broken in.

I have TDIs in here regularly with 300k+ miles on them that have never had the head off.
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Old June 11th, 2018, 10:55   #4
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Do you have any mods or plan to mod in the future for higher horsepower?
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Old June 11th, 2018, 14:17   #5
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Not mods at the moment.
But putting a SB stage 2 clutch, nozzles and kerma chip.
no turbo mod for now.
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Old June 11th, 2018, 14:42   #6
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One TDI here has 285K, another 365K. Original head gaskets on both.
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Old June 14th, 2018, 05:21   #7
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Yes, agree with all the above. Otherwise, you're making work for yourself for what purpose? Is there a deep need to keep parts companies in business? Gotta stimulate the economy? An itching need to test out those new XGN bits in the set you just bought?


Nah, go enjoy your afternoon instead!!


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Old June 14th, 2018, 05:51   #8
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I'll finish buttoning up a TB job on my 2000 Jetta today (soon to be my son's beater). It has almost 370k on the odie ... cannot imagine replacing the head gasket, front crank seal, rear main seal, etc., as they are showing no signs of leaking!

OP, if you remove the Intake Manifold for cleaning, cleaning the intake ports in the head is highly recommended. You just need to make sure that the valve is closed on the port you are working on. Scrape, pick, gouge, vacuum, and compressed air blow-out, repeat as necessary (can be a very messy job).

You do not want to re-install the Intake with the head intake ports looking like this:






Which could (in this case did) result in this......... (also notice the Intake valve to the right)




When you remove the Intake Manifold, the crud crust from the runners to the ports in the head is broken. That junk can and will break loose and be ingested by the engine. If you are lucky, it will pass without incident!
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Old June 14th, 2018, 06:42   #9
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Just for the record, headgasket replacement on the Toyota 7M-GTE engine is essentially part of the 30k service.
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Old June 14th, 2018, 07:24   #10
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Izat because of a known defect or does it get one every 30k? Although if every 30k I'd call that a known defect too.

My son's Focus is going in for one on a recall with less than 15k.
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Old June 14th, 2018, 07:26   #11
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Known issue. Turbo Supra. In Japan they never drive anything that fast for that long, so it was fine there. They come here... and they blow headgaskets. The Euro spec ones got an extra air scoop and reduced power through a different timing map... because evidently if one tried to run alongside a 911 on the Autobahn the headgasket life could be measured in minutes.

The Focus RS is another notorious one.
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What? You mean the BS they showed in Fast & Furious isn't really true??


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