Here's your stripped car test case folks...

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You are confusing the method of buyback calculation with the turn-in condition.
not so much. I'm all for stripping these cars, but if you remove something that positively affected your buyback value calculation, thats where I draw the line. whether or not VW agrees at the time of turn-in would be up to them
 
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I don't think so. I'm pretty sure if they have an allowance for it, it needs to still be part of the car. I don't think saying "it used to have a stereo" counts. Other parts are not specified, so I guess they are fair game, but something specifically noted as affecting the buyback price will probably matter.

But hey, go for it. To me, it would just be another hunk of junk laying around. I doubt there's much of a market.
 
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not so much. I'm all for stripping these cars, but if you remove something that positively affected your buyback value calculation, thats where I draw the line. whether or not VW agrees at the time of turn-in would be up to them
I think it depends on the purpose behind including those options in the calculator. If it was to ensure that you truly got a buyback value representative of what you paid, then it doesn't matter whether they're physically present at the time of the buyback or not. If it was because they're looking at the buyback like a trade-in, then it does. IMO it seems clear that the former is the case, given that damage isn't taken into account.
 

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The condition and equipment when purchased as new are what matter, not the condition and equipment at time of turn in. The only thing that matters at time of turn in is that it runs under the power of the 2.0 TDI engine.
 

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The buyback condition was specifically spelled out. If there were additional conditions, they would have been included.

You anti-strippers just can't let go of the bone in your mouth. Get over it and move on with life.
 

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The condition and equipment when purchased as new are what matter, not the condition and equipment at time of turn in. The only thing that matters at time of turn in is that it runs under the power of the 2.0 TDI engine.

THIS.

Now END OF DISCUSSION.

I'm currently charging my gopro. I'll do my best to document the return process. haha :D
 

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They won't have much choice if the judge calls a new session for clarification, will they?;)
No, to the contrary, the VW lawyer will argue this is a grossly abusive interpretation of the consent order provisions. And when the judge asks the class action lawyers if they are in agreement, all they need to say is "yes".

The judge will be overseeing and clarifying this settlement for quite some time......at least through the end of 2018, and likely longer. In such a long and continuing relationship with the court, lawyers learn that they have only so many arrows in their quiver, and not to waste them on silly things. Defending this guy's "right" to turn in a car in such condition would be a most silly waste of goodwill in advocacy of any matter before any court.
 

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Yet another confused anti-stripper.
It really matters what we think about the situation. If VW doesn't want to accept the car or not is the issue. I hope they don't because the story will be much funnier that way. But none of us have any sway over whether the Buy Back Specialist accepts it or not.

If they don't accept the car the guy becomes a potential Darwin Award winner.
 

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Haha. That Golf R front fascia sure does look sharp. I will reserve judgement on the rightness or wrongness of part stripping until we get news of a fix approval or rejection. As Dan Akroyd would say: 'Consume mass quantities'. And 'Take my car- it's reinforced alloy superstructure is far superior to that of your broken down, rusted out sh** box.'
 

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I think everyone is making alot of assumptions on how much VW will actually give a s*** about a few stripped cars. I very small percentage and absolutely not worth their time to argue with one guy who stripped out his car
 

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I think they may actually see PR upside to allowing the stripped cars to come in uncontested. It's a funny way for people to know that VW is doing the right thing.
 

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Haha. That Golf R front fascia sure does look sharp. I will reserve judgement on the rightness or wrongness of part stripping until we get news of a fix approval or rejection. As Dan Akroyd would say: 'Consume mass quantities'. And 'Take my car- it's reinforced alloy superstructure is far superior to that of your broken down, rusted out sh** box.'
A Ford Lincoln Mercury Sable? A personal conveyance named after its inventor, an assassinated ruler, a character from Greco-Roman myth and a small fur-covered mammal.
 

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The pre SCR cars would be a ridiculous amount of money to fix. You would end up with half a trunk or no passenger seat to fit a DEF tank
 

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No, to the contrary, the VW lawyer will argue this is a grossly abusive interpretation of the consent order provisions. And when the judge asks the class action lawyers if they are in agreement, all they need to say is "yes".
That's one powerful crystal ball you have, seeing the future that isn't even necessarily going to happen and all... :D

We do not know, in any way whatsoever:

1. What the buyback specialist will do
2. What VW might do depending on the above
3. What the judge might do depending on the above
4. What the lawyers might do depending on the above

Or in other words; that's one huge pile of assumptions you just made...

What we do know:

1. Buy back condition is specified as "driveable under 2.0l TDI power" That's it. 0 other conditions apply.

Everything else in your mind is conjecture. ;)
 

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When my species come to rule this planet, you will be on the protected rolls, and no harm will come to you. Narfle the Garthok! :D
 
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The pre SCR cars would be a ridiculous amount of money to fix. You would end up with half a trunk or no passenger seat to fit a DEF tank

There are an awful lot of people ignorantly repeating this and similar claims. Read the docs, it's all there. No DEF for Gen 1 cars.
 

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I think they may actually see PR upside to allowing the stripped cars to come in uncontested. It's a funny way for people to know that VW is doing the right thing.
Yeah, they've really demonstrated that they care to be perceived as doing the right thing, what with the "massive delays with no information provided" thing.
 

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Purely speculative on my part, but if the vehicle is legally operable in its home state, and that VW intends on crushing it, they probably won't care if this bit or that bit are missing. VW is not in the business of selling used parts.

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That's one powerful crystal ball you have, seeing the future that isn't even necessarily going to happen and all... :D

We do not know, in any way whatsoever:

1. What the buyback specialist will do
2. What VW might do depending on the above
3. What the judge might do depending on the above
4. What the lawyers might do depending on the above

Or in other words; that's one huge pile of assumptions you just made...

What we do know:

1. Buy back condition is specified as "driveable under 2.0l TDI power" That's it. 0 other conditions apply.

Everything else in your mind is conjecture. ;)
My friend, it was YOUR assumption that the matter would go to some form of hearing, and it was YOUR conjecture that the class action lawyers would have no choice but to support this overboard stripper.

I was only responding to what would be more likely to happen in YOUR hypothetical world.
 

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Hey, with all the complaining about wait times, some people on the forum might not know that the buyback can actually be done quite quickly.
Sure, if you don't have a loan and are incredibly lucky. Otherwise you're going to be waiting a long time. Uploading the documents correctly the first time is a non sequitur.
 

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Do two hypotheticals make a reality?

My friend, it was YOUR assumption that the matter would go to some form of hearing, and it was YOUR conjecture that the class action lawyers would have no choice but to support this overboard stripper.

I was only responding to what would be more likely to happen in YOUR hypothetical world.
 

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You are correct.

If luck is defined as being able to follow instructions clearly and upload the correct documents the first time.

Sure, if you don't have a loan and are incredibly lucky. Otherwise you're going to be waiting a long time. Uploading the documents correctly the first time is a non sequitur.
 
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