Im not sure what the difference is between the flywheel weights. It uses feramic material and the other side uses organic & copper compound. I most likely dont give the synchros enough time when driving aggressively but I really didn't notice anything bad happening until it broke
CR140 Stage 3
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Die Kupplung wurde gekillt.
JasonG
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Nein, die Kupplung das Getriebe getöet.
1dieselsteve
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Quatch... Die Kupplung ist Im arch...
john.jackson9213
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Translation please for those of us not bilingual?
Paulinski
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Die Kupplung wurde gekillt. - The Clutch was Killed.
bloc
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Do you mean FE or chassis mileage for reliability?
I just finished a large roadtrip. Best tank was 50.4mpg sticking to 72mph for most of it.. higher altitude. More average tanks were closer to 48.. similar speeds. Around town I manage 32-35.. but I'm not exactly hypermiling it either.
Cons: plan for flywheel too, can't use off-the-shelf version of 2micron's fuel system saver kit (when he starts selling them again), passing OBD checks for people in those states...
Stage 3 here, if I hypermile it I'll get 55 mpg.Is there anyone in tristate want to meet up make some comparison pulls to see how the modifications are working for us?? Sunday is great for me.Stage 3 cars would be great.Was at the show and go at E-town Sunday and I trapped 96 mph,14.5 quarter mile spinning like crazy on stock conti's.3300 pounds on scale with me in it.Mike from 413 built the car.I have the Darkside Intercooler and there hard pipe kit/EGR race pipe.Full Rawtek exhaust.Tested 2 intakes at track and the stocker.There were 2 other TDI's there both stage 2 with mods.They trapped 90 mph running 15.5.LOVE my stage 3 car btw!
Thanks I meant overall.
I have averaged in 48's mpg on road trips driving as economy minded as possible in JSW DSG. Also with summer aggressive tires but have not passed the 50 mark yet.
Also anxious to get the modified micron filter when and if available!
I noticed the DSG feels better if you keep the rpms high. If you're going to give it a lot of fuel at low rpm it seems like it to much torque being wasted and pressure on the DSG. If I drive aggressively I keep the rpms at least 3000.
I have about 22k on Stage III up and another 12k on Stage II.
O complaints!
I'm would like to meet up. Send me a pm. Those are some impressive numbers. I don't think the the JSW DSG would keep up with you, maybe I could just get you off the line.
I'm also running a Rawtek exhaust with a S3 IC and a custom dual exhaust & also EGR race pipe.(from Diesel Dubs Les)
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...n-Modification-Thread&p=86411038#post86411038
bloc
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I'm on stock sized LRR tires. ~15k on the CR170 and tune. IC only went on recently.
That 50mpg tank is not normal for me. I think I've had 2 so far in 20k miles... but on trips I'm usually much closer to 47-48, sometimes even going as low as 44 if I have a nasty head wind. One thing I have noticed is that my best tanks always come at high altitude. Colorado, Canadian Rockies, etc. Not sure if this is a function of altitude adjustment in these tunes.. or if people notice the same trend when stock..
That 50mpg tank is not normal for me. I think I've had 2 so far in 20k miles... but on trips I'm usually much closer to 47-48, sometimes even going as low as 44 if I have a nasty head wind. One thing I have noticed is that my best tanks always come at high altitude. Colorado, Canadian Rockies, etc. Not sure if this is a function of altitude adjustment in these tunes.. or if people notice the same trend when stock..
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JasonG
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Sorry for the dumb question.
How does stage 3 affect this?
LovinPSDs
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Pretty sure it's the fueling requirements of the stage 3 tune. The 2 Micron kit can't flow enough fuel to support the amount requested VIA a stage 3 tune.
JFettig
Vendor
That is essentially it, the 2 micron kit splits the fuel supply to the pump case and to the pump head, the pump head doesn't get enough flow when done this way to run Stage 3.
Paulinski
Veteran Member
Correct pure flow kit will cause limp mode at high RMP due to fuel pressure deviation on Stage 3 (in my case it also happened with Stage 2 in 3rd gear manual DSG mode)
The contain kit works as I'm using in on my car with Stage 3.
The contain kit works as I'm using in on my car with Stage 3.
1dieselsteve
Veteran Member
So can I run a stage III without the pure flow? Or what will happen
bloc
Veteran Member
To me it looks like this has been answered, but just in case:
Stock fuel system is fine for stage 3, but apparently not much further.
Adding Contain Flow portion of 2Micron's kits will work fine with stage 3, but it doesn't protect some of the most expensive parts of the fuel system in the event of a pump failure (injectors, rail, FP control solenoid, FP sensor.)
Adding Pure Flow portion brings up the issues JFettig brought up. You'll have problems with stage 3, and sometimes stage 2. These problems include an inability of the car to maintain fuel rail pressure at higher RPMs, leading to lost power, CEL, limp mode, etc. I don't know if it actually damages the engine or fuel system.. I'm suspecting no. All it is throwing a code over is low rail pressure, not -no- rail pressure.
Stock fuel system is fine for stage 3, but apparently not much further.
Adding Contain Flow portion of 2Micron's kits will work fine with stage 3, but it doesn't protect some of the most expensive parts of the fuel system in the event of a pump failure (injectors, rail, FP control solenoid, FP sensor.)
Adding Pure Flow portion brings up the issues JFettig brought up. You'll have problems with stage 3, and sometimes stage 2. These problems include an inability of the car to maintain fuel rail pressure at higher RPMs, leading to lost power, CEL, limp mode, etc. I don't know if it actually damages the engine or fuel system.. I'm suspecting no. All it is throwing a code over is low rail pressure, not -no- rail pressure.
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1dieselsteve
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Is it even worth upgrading to a stage III? For the price of the turbo, software from malone tuning, and installation cost. Any fuel increase from a stage II to a stage III? I know if I were to do it, it would be another $2000.00 invested. Was there a noticable difference once the upgrade was done.
Savageman69
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i got my cr170 turbo off ebay for 430 bux shipped to my door from germany...an extra 30ish hp yah i think its worth it
For me the upgrade was worth it. Stage III is similar to the difference between going from stock to Stage II. Gas mileage is almost the same as Stage II.
1dieselsteve
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Was yours new or used... Kinda nervous buying something like that on eBay or being used or find out it's junk.
Savageman69
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used....very low mileage and has been looked at by 3 certified vw techs who say it looks very good.
While doing other work today I noticed this! 2012 Passat CKRA. Stock turbo was replaced under warranty by the dealer after failure. apparently there was debris leftover. this is turbo #2. No fault codes and no noticeable power loss yet after 30k miles. bearing feels ok and no grinding. Im going to look into the Passat turbo possibility mentioned earlier on. Anyone have any more info on that turbo as far as exhaust ports and cylinder head compatibility?
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Paulinski
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Are all those specs around the turbine shredder debris embedded?
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Bingo.