TEXAS and Emissions Testing???

Hi,

I was having a discussion with a fellow Texan in class this morning. A couple of Californians were whining about emissions testing. I stated that my car was exempt. The Texan promptly chimed in about how I must've slipped through a loop hole because his turbodiesels ALWAYS get tested. I quoted a pamplet that the inspection station gave me in order to support their "requirement" to test my car. When I pointed out that the document said, "...on gasoline powered cars..." and that my car was DIESEL powered, I was off the hook.

My classmate feels that I slipped through a crack and that the law says "gasoline powered" means ANY fossil fuel. Since neither of us can provide supporting documentation for our cases, we don't know who's actually correct.

Can anyone clear this up, hopefully with a link to the law? Who got fooled? The guy that inspected my car in TX? Or this classmate that gets his diesels emissions tested in TX?

Thanks,

[ February 27, 2002, 11:48: Message edited by: Stealth TDI ]

Well, they WERE exempt here in VA and I think they still ARE!

Here is what I could find.

Gasoline vehicles from two through 24 years old are tested annually beginning with the vehicle's second anniversary.

New emission law requires students to get inspections

It does say "Gasoline vehicles"

This is relavent to the area where I live. I can't think that my 2001 TDI will fall thru the cracks for long.

Hi,

Now that I'm no longer in class and can't "win" the debate, I tripped over this:

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/

It specifies that diesels are exempt. Just make sure you print it and take it to the inspection station in case someone decides to pull one over on you.

(Diesel powered vehicles are exempt from the emissions standards, but are still required to have the annual safety inspection)

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Just another added bonus of owning a TDI in that nonattainment area otherwise known as Dallas County.

Could be a fluke but my '77 Rabbit G60 failed a visual inspection for having an open element filter. I never researched it. I just went to an easier inspection station and passed. Gotta love Texas! I live in Austin.

Jim
dieselgeek.com

In dieselphobic California, diesels are exempt from emissions testing.

Only certain Texas counties perform emissions tests. Luckily I don't live in a county that does emissions testing. So I have nothing to worry about with either vehicle I own.

BTW, you can tell your idiot friend that "gasoline powered vehicle" is a vehicle that is powered by GASOLINE! DUH! It doesn't say "diesel powered" and it doesn't say "LPG powered" and it doesn't say "CNG powered". It only says "gasoline powered". Meaning only GASOLINE POWERED vehicles apply.

Stupid people really piss me off. Especially when they can't admit when they're wrong. Even when the evidence is staring them right in the face.

[ May 29, 2002, 19:33: Message edited by: ProjectZwoTDI ]

In dirty Jersey they are exempt as well. The only thing they check for is excess smoke. I have yet to know of anyone with a problem at inspection, and I know people with old diesel rabbits that make more smoke then an incinerator!

Originally Posted by OilBurnerBob In dieselphobic California, diesels are exempt from emissions testing.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Go Figure In Washoe County (Reno) NV they use a pipe sniffer and a Dyno for emmissions testing

[ June 01, 2002, 21:10: Message edited by: zeedaddy ]

Originally posted by ProjectZwoTDI:
Only certain Texas counties perform emissions tests. Luckily I don't live in a county that does emissions testing. So I have nothing to worry about with either vehicle I own.

BTW, you can tell your idiot friend that "gasoline powered vehicle" is a vehicle that is powered by GASOLINE! DUH! It doesn't say "diesel powered" and it doesn't say "LPG powered" and it doesn't say "CNG powered". It only says "gasoline powered". Meaning only GASOLINE POWERED vehicles apply.

Stupid people really piss me off. Especially when they can't admit when they're wrong. Even when the evidence is staring them right in the face.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don't get too amazed. One of the online dictionaries lists "diesel" as "form of gasoline"?
I think it was dictionary.com, but it wouldn't come up a few minutes ago.

Makes you wonder you is actually writing the dictionary?

just to add fuel (diesel or gasoline) to the fire, my Texas vehicle registration renewal notice indicates that my Jetta TDI is "gas" powered.
I called the TX DOT about this, and the reasonable lady said that it's a known error, doesn't mean too much right now. She said that even trailers are described in their database as "gas" powered.
my faith in government is strengthened . . .

Hi,

Out of curiosity, I looked at my paperwork. No mention of "gas" anywhere... even on my trailer registration. Was that mention of "gas" on your paperwork or in a database?

When I looked at my paperwork, YEAR/MAKE says, "1998/VOLK" and MODEL says, "JTD." I wonder what the gas Jetta says? Could "JTD" mean Jetta Diesel and perhaps the gasser is "JTG?" Hmmmm....

Just took a look at my title. Luckily they got it right. Under the "remarks" they have ACTUAL MILEAGE and DIESEL.

A California title will have a heading "fuel". G for gas and D for Diesel. This fuel heading on the registration tag is called "MP"(who knows why? Maybe it means method of propulsion??). D for diesel and nothing or G for gas.

Gardentender -- When I first got my registration, I pointed out that mine was listed as gas instead of diesel. She said, we'll leave it as gas, diesel costs more (in road taxes). At which point I declined not to push the issue any further and thanked her. True??? ... who knows; maybe she was fishing for a date.

[ June 19, 2002, 02:44: Message edited by: GulfGolfTDI (formerly mtillerson) ]

Texas. Emissions. Hmmmmmmmmm.

You probably get failed if your car doesn't emit enough pollutants. It's taken as evidence that you aren't burnin' enough of W's buddies' wares.

Originally posted by GotDiesel?:
Texas. Emissions. Hmmmmmmmmm.

You probably get failed if your car doesn't emit enough pollutants. It's taken as evidence that you aren't burnin' enough of W's buddies' wares.

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Just be glad we finally have a President with some cajones to fight terrorism. Clinton did nothing. And Gore wouldn't have done anything either.