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Old February 13th, 2020, 10:25   #1
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Default Who makes Group 4 507 Spec oils, 0W-30 or 5w-30 oil?

Help me help my 2012 TDI live forever! Which oils meet the 507 spec and use a group 4 base stock?

This is surprisingly difficult to find out. A lot of them are 505. I just want a true European diesel synthetic in spec.

Bias towards MB1 and AMSOIL, but I don't believe they offer 507 spec.

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Old February 13th, 2020, 10:30   #2
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Not sure if mobil 1's ESP is a group 4 or not but their ESP x1 0w30 or ESP 5w30 is a 507 spec oil.

I'm personally running the ESP x1 0w30.
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Old February 13th, 2020, 10:31   #3
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Any 507.00 compliant 5w30 will be perfectly fine. You'll have a dozen other things fail before the engine's internally lubricated parts will anyway. Don't over think it.

I just did a 430k mile service on one. The Pentosin 5w30 SP3 oil seems to be working just fine in it.
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Old February 13th, 2020, 11:52   #4
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Yeah, this thread on BITOG explains why a straight group iv 507 oil is unnecessary, undesirable, and unavailable.

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Old February 13th, 2020, 12:10   #5
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I looked into this too, and the only oil I could find that was for sure an ester based group IV was the RedLine Euro-Series 5w30, but it's not VW approved. Personally I am planning to use M1 ESP until the warranty is up, and then switch to RedLine.
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Old February 14th, 2020, 05:03   #6
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Like the guys said dont worry about the group IV rating, your going to see negligible difference between the group III plus and IV VW 507 oils. I use pennzoil Euro LX 0W30 as I'm up north as it's only $32 cdn when in sale for 5 liters. Dont overthink oil, that's why VW certified them for you.
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