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Dieselgate - VW Group Emission Scandal Discussion around the VW Dieselgate Emissions scandal. Details and news updates can be viewed here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=448336 This forum is a work in progress depending on requirements, usage, etc.

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Old October 2nd, 2019, 07:09   #1
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Hi All,

Helping my cousin with buying a TDI and they found a 2014 Jetta TDI with only 15k miles. In looking at the Carfax, it looks like from June 2017- aug 2019 it sat with the Michigan DMV. Is this due to the emissions scandal and the subsequent fix?? Just not sure if this is typical for this generation TDi. Its for sale through Carvana and they actually have already ordered it. (Not sure how to attach screenshot to the thread, I am new here.)

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Old October 2nd, 2019, 07:42   #2
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The Carfax will show the title/car being in Michigan, that is where all the titles for the Dieselgate cars went. The cars did not get moved to Michigan for storage. Check the Carfax for the original purchase location, and subsequent services and title transfers (ignoring Michigan, unless the car was serviced or sold in Michigan), that will give you an idea of where the car lived, and was stored.
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Old October 2nd, 2019, 07:57   #3
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Thank you!
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Old October 2nd, 2019, 08:10   #4
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I've looked at dozens of these cars while trying to find what I want. The dealer that I worked with made the mistake of taking me to several holding lots to see cars that hadn't been processed yet. I started checking these lots on my own, looking for newly acquired cars. As new diesel-gate cars came in, I noticed that many of them had notes written on the DS window glass, or paper check sheets inside on the passenger seat.

From what I can tell, these cars were supposed to be started every month and warmed up. It looks like there were even moved around the lot occasionally.

I can't imagine this was real consistent, but I also don't think many of them sat completely untouched for that whole time.
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Old October 2nd, 2019, 08:13   #5
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Oh wow, interesting. That's good to know.
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Old October 2nd, 2019, 15:32   #6
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My 2014 JSW from NC with 13k miles sat for two years also. The back side of the tires were not cleaned and all 4 were covered with red dirt so I believe it did some off roading in the red mud.
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Old October 12th, 2019, 08:47   #7
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Like said above ignore the Michigan title, just a technicality of the buyback. There are (were) TDI purgatory lots sprinkled all over the country.

My '12 was bought new by first owner from Stone Mountain VW in Atlanta, exclusively serviced there to ~65k miles then turned in (presumably at Stone Mountain VW) - can't remember the exact month but it was I believe Oct or Nov '17. Stone Mountain VW bought the car back from VWoA in 3/19, CPO'ed it then sold it to me in 4/19. I asked my sales guy if they were storing TDI's on their lot and he told me no but he was not sure where it sat, they bought it back because they knew the history on it and felt it was a solid auction buy.

There is/was a large lot a little over an hour north of Atlanta between here and Chattanooga that I am pretty certain both cars in my sig sat during purgatory. Like I said mine was turned in here in Atlanta, the 2011 lived first part of its life ~2 hours away in South Carolina.
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Old October 12th, 2019, 08:59   #8
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Sorry to hijack the thread but... are these cars "safe" to buy? Will there be any catastrophic repair bills (DPF, injectors, HPFP) in the foreseeable future? I'd love to stay with Diesels, as our 2003s are getting _really_ old, but...


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Old October 12th, 2019, 09:35   #9
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Well you can try to get a cpo car..and also the emissions/dieselgate warranty is great..
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The warranty will push out any catastrophic repair bills in to the future. I would look for a manual to avoid any DSG issues and do my best to get the emissions system in top shape before the warranty ends.
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Sorry to hijack the thread but... are these cars "safe" to buy? Will there be any catastrophic repair bills (DPF, injectors, HPFP) in the foreseeable future? I'd love to stay with Diesels, as our 2003s are getting _really_ old, but...
No one can predict the future.

Personally, if I were to buy another VW, it would be one with the 1.4 TSI gasoline engine. Fuel consumption is close enough to that of a TDI as to make no real difference, and it doesn't have the diesel's complicated emission control systems.
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Old October 16th, 2019, 22:26   #12
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But the engineering and performance of these TDIs puts them in a much higher class of vehicle. The last German Turbo-diesels... (depending on what happens to Mercedes-Benz and BMW). Sob.
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