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Old August 22nd, 2014, 16:39   #1
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Default Passenger window down... won't go up

So i'm in a bit of a pickle, the passenger window is down and won't go up either with the passenger switch, driver switch or via the keyfob. A VCDS scan tells me i've got an implausible signal - passenger door.

I replaced the driver side door harness already due to the same issue. I've checked the passenger wiring and found some of the insulation cracked, but nothing that would indicated the cables themselves are completely cracked.

I've got two questions:

1) Can anybody tell me which wires are which? I've spliced the two wires with cracked insulation, and my situation has not improved.

2) Is there someway to hot wire it to get the window up? Or a mechanical way? I just need it up for now until I have time to replace the harness itself.

Also, as always, any other thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. Maybe the wiring isn't the issue and I'm chasing the wrong thing. Thanks
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 18:08   #2
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As you've already suggested its probably wire related and it probably in the part the spans between the door post and the door. Try opening the door all the way up and working the switches, see if that help. Sometimes it will allow you to get you window closed.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 23:50   #3
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I had the same problem on my A5. I removed the door card and removed the motor/controller so I could crank the window up manually.

I put the motor/controller back in so central locking would work while I waited for the new motor and guess what? After I plugged it back in, the window was working again. Try leaving the battery disconnected for 1/2 hour or so.

I went ahead and installed the new motor/controller because I figured that if the motor/controller crapped it's self once, it would do it again.
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Old August 23rd, 2014, 06:17   #4
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Thanks! I'll try the battery trick. It's weird because it seemed to happen so suddenly and after an hour or two of fiddling with it never once budged... I thought for sure I could at least get it up, but no dice

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I had the same problem on my A5. I removed the door card and removed the motor/controller so I could crank the window up manually.

I put the motor/controller back in so central locking would work while I waited for the new motor and guess what? After I plugged it back in, the window was working again. Try leaving the battery disconnected for 1/2 hour or so.

I went ahead and installed the new motor/controller because I figured that if the motor/controller crapped it's self once, it would do it again.
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Old August 23rd, 2014, 08:52   #5
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Allright, battery trick didn't work. I guess I'm going the door card/motor/controller removal route. Once I get the motor out I'll be able to just crank the window up by hand from the inside? I won't need to remove the exterior door skin? Thanks

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I had the same problem on my A5. I removed the door card and removed the motor/controller so I could crank the window up manually.

I put the motor/controller back in so central locking would work while I waited for the new motor and guess what? After I plugged it back in, the window was working again. Try leaving the battery disconnected for 1/2 hour or so.

I went ahead and installed the new motor/controller because I figured that if the motor/controller crapped it's self once, it would do it again.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 11:07   #6
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It's only a case of prying off the door handle cover and a half dozen odd Tprx screws and then pry off the door card. The window motor is held with 3 screws and unplug from the harness.

No need to remove the door skin

The winder motor has a splined shaft that engages a spline hole in the winder so you will need to rig something to turn it manually to wind up the window
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Old August 25th, 2014, 17:26   #7
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Wiring harness!!! Try opening the door a little some times the wires make contact while the door opens and closes.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 19:58   #8
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My drivers window would not go up, wire was broken in the harness, insulation was not cracked or broken, found by pulling each wire individually and the broken one pulled apart. I think there has been at least 3 revisions on the harness.
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Old August 19th, 2015, 17:27   #9
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Hey all, know I am resurrecting an old thread but this has cropped up again and I'm determined to make sure this is the last time.

My passenger window is stuck again, luckily this time in the up position. It has been working intermittently for a year or so. I have known issues (cracked wires, which i've attempted to repair) where the harness goes into the body of the car. However, every time I press the window button down button on either the passenger side or the driver's side, i hear a click coming from the motor/controller unit. This indicated to me that the motor/controller unit was getting signal to go down, but was broken so it clicked.

I ordered a new motor/controller from fixmyvw, plugged it in, and got the exact same response.

A VCDS scan confirms that i'm showing a code for the door:

00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

My new approach is to bite the bullet, and replace the door wire harness. I guess I have two questions:

1) Does anybody know where I can get the harness cheap? Dealer is looking for $180, and the cheapest i've been able to find online is around $150... part # 1K5971121H

2) What is making the motor/controller (both old and brand new) click every time time I try and put the window down? Does that mean the old controller/motor is bad or good?

3) Any other thoughts/suggestions on this?

I've gone and unplugged and replugged everything in the door and still nothing. Any thoughts as always appreciated
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Old April 13th, 2017, 20:42   #10
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Just to add my experience from today 4/13/17, Pass window rolled down with switch and would not close. All other windows functioning properly. This had happened once before --- but later in the day decided to roll up via door switch.

Scanned the car with VCDS:
Code(s) retrieved:
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

Completed the following:
1) Tried the pass switch repeatedly...
2) Tried key-offs, driver window switch...pass window switch
3) Opened the door to different positions (assuming a door harness issue)
4) Pulled the accordion wire cover off of the door harness (between car body and door) to check wiring for cracks/chaffing -- 2x
5) Disconnected battery for 30 min
6) vigorous switch depressions
7) Recalled previous posts of people removing door card to tap on the window motor -- Gave the door panel (still installed) a couple "palm thumps" below the door handle while pressing the window switch and the window rolled up

This may help folks in the rain, on the road, or in the cold.

Seems I also know that there is either a motor connection issue or motor is bad. Will have to tear into it later to confirm.
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Old September 23rd, 2019, 18:20   #11
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Just dealt with this issue today. I tried disconnecting the battery with no luck. The issue was only with the front passenger door. I took the door panel off and disconnected all the wires/harnesses. Wires/harnesses looked good at the motor. Reconnected everything and the window rolls up! Thank you so much. - Rob

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Old September 29th, 2019, 09:36   #12
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I've had a similar issue, the bang method on the door would sometimes work or the button press would sometimes work. It ended up being a bad door control module.
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Old October 10th, 2019, 17:01   #13
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VTJoe79,
If your still looking for a cheaper pasenger door wiring harness, I've bought two from
https://vdub-shop.com/vw-jetta-passe...1k5-971-121-h/
The price is just around 100 bucks
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Old October 10th, 2019, 17:33   #14
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The bang the door method, it’s where I’d start

https://youtu.be/B292YGgLU20
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