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Dieselgate - VW Group Emission Scandal Discussion around the VW Dieselgate Emissions scandal. Details and news updates can be viewed here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=448336 This forum is a work in progress depending on requirements, usage, etc.

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Old June 30th, 2016, 07:54   #46
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At which point we find out that we get a free toque, can of beer, and a token gift card .

In all honesty, I feel like VW is waiting to see how things turn out south of the border before they offer us anything. Makes sense in a way: if they offer Canadians a better deal, then everyone in the U.S. will cry foul. If they offer Canadians a sub-standard deal, and then renegotiate in the U.S. based on consumer feedback with a better deal, then we will be upset.

Best reason I can justify this point with is the data on https://www.vwemissionsinfo.ca/news/...tdi-vehicles/: if they were not going to wait on the U.S. decision, then why would they even be mentioning it to Canadian customers?
Lol. Good points. At least they are acknowledging it and it does seem like something will happen here.
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Old June 30th, 2016, 08:00   #47
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Lol. Good points. At least they are acknowledging it and it does seem like something will happen here.
I definitely hope so!
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Old June 30th, 2016, 08:48   #48
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Item Buyback Amount Modification Amount
2010 Jetta SportWagen 4D TDI $15,497.00 $5,072.00
Option: No Automatic Trans -$750.00 -$125.00
Option: Power Sunroof $540.00 $90.00
Miles: 85001 - 90000
Odometer miles: 100000
Calculation month: October 2016
Mileage Adjustment: -13546
Effective miles: 86454 -$630.00 -$105.00
Further Adjustment $168.00 $168.00
(Total) $14,825.00 $5,100.00
If it's even close to that after 6yrs of ownership I'll be more than please and use it towards a new 2017 GSW!
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Old June 30th, 2016, 09:08   #49
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Item Buyback Amount Modification Amount
2010 Jetta SportWagen 4D TDI $15,497.00 $5,072.00
Option: No Automatic Trans -$750.00 -$125.00
Option: Power Sunroof $540.00 $90.00
Miles: 85001 - 90000
Odometer miles: 100000
Calculation month: October 2016
Mileage Adjustment: -13546
Effective miles: 86454 -$630.00 -$105.00
Further Adjustment $168.00 $168.00
(Total) $14,825.00 $5,100.00
If it's even close to that after 6yrs of ownership I'll be more than please and use it towards a new 2017 GSW!
Would you be good with a TSI? Any worries about leaving the TDI lifestyle behind?
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Old June 30th, 2016, 09:52   #50
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I really can't speculate what vw will do up here for us. It's hard to say! But I dare say something similar to US deal.
As per their proposed deal, my 2013 would be a 22k buy back. And 22k was my cost of purchase in fall of 2013 financed at 0% / 28k out the door with tax and stuff.
But I will keep it and let them try to develope and impliment a fix.
If they don't figure it out... I would be stupid not to take a 22k buyback in fall of 2018.
Would be a cheap 5 years of ownership, and doubtfull... But maybe another tdi would exist to purchase.

A lot of "ifs" and "unknown" but that's how owning this lovely little cAr has been since day 1 eh!!!
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Old June 30th, 2016, 10:02   #51
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http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/business...deal-1.3655371

Here's a little artical.

VW leaving us in the dark still and not even mentioning "BUY BACK" ....
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Old June 30th, 2016, 10:10   #52
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http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/business...deal-1.3655371

Here's a little artical.

VW leaving us in the dark still and not even mentioning "BUY BACK" ....
My fear is that they will only settle in Canada in so far as to keep the Emissions regulation violation under control. That would entail the "fix" if and when it becomes available. Since we do not have an equivalent to the FTC case up here, or the DOJ case, they may not feel compelled to hand out additional compensation. Looks like the judges up here are still sorting out which court case(s) will take precedence in an eventual class action so it doesn't look like we're even close to a settlement.

https://www.volkswagenclassaction.com/
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Old June 30th, 2016, 10:45   #53
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http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/business...deal-1.3655371
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VW leaving us in the dark still and not even mentioning "BUY BACK" ....
Yeah but its CBC....Id wait until other sources are posting articles.
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Old June 30th, 2016, 11:36   #54
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Would you be good with a TSI? Any worries about leaving the TDI lifestyle behind?
I think so... Maybe... I don't know? We still have the MKIV running strong @ 306k km and always on the look out for a 2006 TDI Wagon.
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My fear is that they will only settle in Canada in so far as to keep the Emissions regulation violation under control. That would entail the "fix" if and when it becomes available.
If you read the documents that were filed in the States last week, it is fairly clear that VW has no viable/economic solution for the 2.0 non-SCR engines. I think VW will have no choice but to buy them back, put them in containers, and ship them to China for resale.

They can't force you to sell your car to them, so they will have to make it worth your while.

The wrinkle is that, for those of us in Ontario, I could see the provincial government refusing to renew registration stickers. In that case, we will have to take whatever VW is offering. But that move would almost guarantee that Magna would be shut out of supplying parts to VW, which would involve Ontario job losses.
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Old July 1st, 2016, 08:33   #56
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They can't force you to sell your car to them, so they will have to make it worth your while.

The wrinkle is that, for those of us in Ontario, I could see the provincial government refusing to renew registration stickers. In that case, we will have to take whatever VW is offering. But that move would almost guarantee that Magna would be shut out of supplying parts to VW, which would involve Ontario job losses.

Sell (if you want) the TDI's into the OTHER Provinces. AB is Diesel Country and BC too.
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Old July 1st, 2016, 18:17   #57
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Is there any point of going for paint repairs under warranty on Monday July 4th and have the vehicle immobilized for 4-5 days if VW is going to buy it back?

And is there a chance that VW buys it back before the end of the year?

What are your opinions?
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Old July 1st, 2016, 18:33   #58
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In April a VW Canada spokesperson said the Canadian dieselgate solution would "mirror" the US variety. So paint condition probably won't matter much if this is the case. If I was in your shoes, I'd have the work done because it may be possible to hang on to the vehicle for a couple of years before turning it in.

Until the end of July we just don't know the answer to either of your questions.
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Old July 1st, 2016, 19:26   #59
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I think Canadians will get the middle finger on this...Audi gave me just a 500$ dealer card and 3 free oil services..maybe they fill like if you have an Audi you are rich and you don't need their f..ing money.
After i did the buyback calc. of my car following the usa data i am not really happy.I paid for my CPO 2012 Audi A3 31000 $( tax in/ almost 3000$ i think) and the buyback i get is 26627 $.(24000 $ left in payments) so i will end up maybe with a 2627$ in my pocket if i am lucky, its not even what i paid for 1 year of owning this car.
Nobody is talking about the taxes we paid,the options like CPO certification, Audi care ...who is paying for that...
At this point i lost any hope i will just keep driving my car , i cant just park it on my driveway and wait...is taking too long to fix this crap..
At least i really love my car and it make's me feel good every time i drive it
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Old July 1st, 2016, 19:41   #60
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I'm not sure how much I trust this calculator tbh.

It says my 2011 4D Golf Hatch TDI would be worth USD$23,357.00.. even in loonies that seems pretty high. Last payment comes out next month.

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