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VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta (99.5-~2005), Golf(99.5-2006), and New Beetle(98-2006). Both VE and PD engines are covered here.

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Old April 5th, 2004, 00:33   #1
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You may all remember I lost my car last weekend to some ba$tard theif and it was found Wednesday night...

Well, I got the call from the ICBC Estimator today and we went over all the damage / loss...

My findings can be found here:
http://www.vwdov.ca/forum/showthread...threadid=40600

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Old April 5th, 2004, 00:51   #2
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Oh man, now you've got me worried [img]/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]

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Insert key. "bend" it so the switchblade key is at a right angle to the fob. With key still bent, turn and start the car. It should fire up normally, but 1-2 seconds later it should die as if you turned they key back off. The immobilizer light should now be on/flashing (can't remember which).

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When I come home in 2 weeks, this will be the first thing I do. Interestingly, I can't recall ever seeing the Immoblizer light at all. In the eurocluster, the light is yellow. Is it the same in the us-spec unit?

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Old April 5th, 2004, 01:07   #3
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On my '02 golf, it looks like a warning triangle, with an Exclamation point in the middle. If memory serves (from the one time i've had it go off - the car was towed from a *sigh* illegal parking spot) it's on the speedo side of the cluster.

Opening the door once the immo has been triggered results in the alarm going off. The car would not start until I had re-armed the alarm and disarmed it again. Again, this is all from memory, and it's been a while. I've had a good 3000 trouble-free miles since that cold december night.

What did bother me was that the guy who towed the car from the Philly parking authority had NO trouble getting my door open to let the car out of gear for the tow....
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Old April 5th, 2004, 02:58   #4
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In the eurocluster, the light is yellow. Is it the same in the us-spec unit?-Jason

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Yes it is yellow, mine is the side profile of a car with a key on top of it.
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Old April 5th, 2004, 06:21   #5
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99.5 cars DO NOT have the immobilizer

and there are different versions of the immobilizer... and they act differently...
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Old April 5th, 2004, 09:14   #6
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DIY guide to switchblade key remote replacement
Three types:
MKIV, w/o immob
MKIV, w/ immob2
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Old April 5th, 2004, 11:40   #7
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Well this sucks, lol. Looks like I am going to need a aftermarket alarm.
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Old April 5th, 2004, 11:42   #8
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I wonder... how hard is it to retrofit the immobilizer. I'de need the sender, FOBs, ...

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Old April 5th, 2004, 11:55   #9
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I wonder... how hard is it to retrofit the immobilizer. I'de need the sender, FOBs, ...

-Jason

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Well, I'll let you know as my car will not be leaving the dealer without one. I'll know more today as I'm going to the dealer later to go over the damage from the theft.

On another note - I'm still really confused with this immobilizer thing. Am I supposed to have one or not? I mean, I don't have one (despite all the previous reasons why I thought I did), but why on earth did I get a plastic tag with a 7 character immobilizer code on it when I bought the car?!?!?!

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Old April 5th, 2004, 14:07   #10
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Brian, I too have the plastic key tab with 7 digit number, however I believe this number to be unrelated to the immobilizer according to the information on the Ross Tech website:

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/immobilizer2.html

I found these numbers Ross-tech refers to in my manual package.
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Old April 5th, 2004, 16:52   #11
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If I'm not mistaken, the plastic tab with the 7-digit number is a key code for having a key made up for the car. I've owned a couple of cars that had those. Nowadays, dealerships can get that information from your VIN number on their computers.
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Old April 6th, 2004, 12:25   #12
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OK - I have it from the "source" (VW Canada) that some 99.5 G/J will in fact have a factory passive immobilizer.

How do you tell if yours does? See the link in the parent post for the details!!! (I know - I'm evil!!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] )

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Old April 7th, 2004, 12:51   #13
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OK - The information in my previous post was from someone at VW Canada who did not know what they were talking about (imagine that)... I do now have definitive, official details and what that means to me. Tune in to the link in the parent post for details!

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Old April 7th, 2004, 13:02   #14
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You say you have a 'November 98 build' on your car.

That is not a 99.5 .
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Old April 7th, 2004, 20:40   #15
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Damn I thought VWs are free from theft..especially diesels engines...I guess I'm wrong...curse thieves
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