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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old August 28th, 2011, 06:11   #1261
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2) they are usually full time in a car with no option to disable them which can cost as much as 10 mpgs or more.
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brb, gonna go get 33mpg in my 2010 Legacy.
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Old August 28th, 2011, 06:16   #1262
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The best I have gotten in my GC CRD is a little over 24mpg, I have seen others say the have gotten close to 30.
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Old August 28th, 2011, 09:46   #1263
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But your GC CRD isn't a car with a 4-cylinder diesel, it's a truck with a V6.

Make your GC the size of a Passat, and lop two cylinders off, then we can talk.
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Old August 28th, 2011, 10:18   #1264
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But your GC CRD isn't a car with a 4-cylinder diesel, it's a truck with a V6.
Make your GC the size of a Passat, and lop two cylinders off, then we can talk.


Try this one on for size:

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calcu...umn=1&id=22529

Compare how much better this 2.8L four banger (Italian) with 4WD diesel does
when figuring the lower miles per gallon of even the manual tranny 3.7 gasser!

I drove a used one a few years ago with 9K miles on the odometer that was on
a lot here in Southern California (San Diego) and it was fully loaded with
the original sticker in the glove compartment. Very nice indeed.



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Old August 28th, 2011, 11:09   #1265
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But your GC CRD isn't a car with a 4-cylinder diesel, it's a truck with a V6.

Make your GC the size of a Passat, and lop two cylinders off, then we can talk.
You missed my point.
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Old August 28th, 2011, 12:54   #1266
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True, the GC gets (and sometimes beats) the figures that rotarykid claimed a 4-cylinder car would get, while being a 6-cylinder truck.
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Old August 29th, 2011, 06:45   #1267
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Can the RNS 510 be added later to an SE Passat? What about KESSY and remote start?

If so, how difficult would it be? A friend of mine likes the NAV in the SEL but doesn't want to pay for all the other SEL features and doesn't want the lower-resolution NAV offered in the SE.
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Old August 29th, 2011, 07:04   #1268
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The RNS510 is very expensive if bought standalone. I'd rather install Kenwood's excellent DNX520VBT at half the cost.



http://www.kenwood-electronics.co.uk.../vw/DNX520VBT/
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Old August 29th, 2011, 08:43   #1269
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Looks like that thing is very expensive, too. Maybe he should get one of the Chinese units... Otherwise, it seems like it's a better deal to just buy the SEL. Do you know of a place that sells the Kenwood at a good price?
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Old August 29th, 2011, 10:02   #1270
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The Passat Trims & Specs section of the VW website which was first plain useless and later blank, now has separate information for each trim level. (Sadly, the "text" version has no vertical alignment of features between specs so it's hard to compare.)

It lists:
No "chrome protective strips" except on the upper trim levels - are those sill protectors, at the bottom of the door edge, or the desperately necessary midlle-of-door ding pcatchers?

"Rear passenger ventilation for heat and A/C". As the pictures of the rear of the console (none on the VW website itself) show no vents, I guess this means under-seat vents, if true at all?

SE: "Power lumbar for driver seat, manual for passenger"
Manual lumbar support would get me most the way to comfort (and hopefully make power lumbar easier to retrofit, if it's no a whole different system).
But that is new, and not mentioned anywhere else except the standard/optional features table (with the same wording).

But then, the text also lists no foglights on TDI-SE/nav and TDI-SEL even though the pictures above show them, so my trust in this is limited.
Worse, the table says only these two top trim levels get 12V outlets, while the text also list them for the SE-manual but not the SE-DSG.
While it's nuts to exclude these on any trim level (spending plastic molding NRE money to make the cover to take away a feature...), it's believeable, but again, there is a contradiction.

I'd really like to know what's what, but now I can't find the 800-VW-gives-a- number.

I wonder about German engineering vs. American marketing in all this,
but then I see things like "side marker", which is noteworthy because a) though a US brochure writer may still be silly enough to list these like not every car in the US has them, a German would be more likely to do so since they've only been legal, much less common, there for a few years, and b) only a German would (based on the way it is in German) think that the plural of "marker" is "marker".

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Old August 29th, 2011, 13:55   #1271
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It lists:
No "chrome protective strips" except on the upper trim levels - are those sill protectors, at the bottom of the door edge, or the desperately necessary midlle-of-door ding pcatchers?


http://terryatamian.com/wp-content/u...012-passat.jpg
http://web.vw.com/blogassets/passat/...otor-Trend.jpg
http://www.autocenterblog.com/wp-con...n-Passat-3.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnV...sat-USA-15.JPG
http://www.cheersandgears.com/upload..._76_363477.jpg

The TDI SE doesn't have the chrome and looks like the 2.5 gas model unless you get the Nav trim:


SE gas:
http://images.autoconx.com/Photos/086/503599086_1_B.jpg
http://cdn8.wn.com/ph/img/d6/15/be7b...4b0-grande.jpg

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"Rear passenger ventilation for heat and A/C". As the pictures of the rear of the console (none on the VW website itself) show no vents, I guess this means under-seat vents, if true at all?
It must, because the SEL cars at dealerships don't have rear middle vents.
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Old August 29th, 2011, 20:10   #1272
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I just saw the SEL TDI at a dealership:

It does have under seat vents. Also, the center vents from the front blow very hard. I'm in Houston and it is currently 106 outside and I was impressed how well the car was cooling in the back seat. Not sure how much the under seat vents contributed, but the front center vents were blowing so well that I could feel a breeze in the back seat. I had test driven a Lexus ES350 earlier the same day, with rear vents, and it was not as good for me as the vents blew on my leg but not my body.

Also, the salesman told me that they were adding the vents in the rear center console but it would not be there for the first delivery (which he expected in early October). The second batch (late October delivery) was expected to have the rear vents. Not sure if this is accurate or not but according to the salesman it was a major oversight that they realized they needed to correct and could not wait until the next year model.

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Old August 29th, 2011, 20:32   #1273
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Also, the salesman told me that they were adding the vents in the rear center console but it would not be there for the first delivery (which he expected in early October). The second batch (late October delivery) was expected to have the rear vents. Not sure if this is accurate or not but according to the salesman it was a major oversight that they realized they needed to correct and could not wait until the next year model.
That's ridiculously unfair for those who ordered the first batch.
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Old August 29th, 2011, 20:53   #1274
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Back a few pages i saw sombudy say Tdeyez were black and gassers sliver, i saw a black gasser @ waterfest, along wit tdi
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Old August 30th, 2011, 07:13   #1275
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That's ridiculously unfair for those who ordered the first batch.
Those that ordered the first batch ordered them with the knowledge that they didn't have center vents. And, it's common knowledge that VW changes stuff quite often in the first model year of a car.

If they want center vents, I hear there's this program called ETKA that gives you part numbers.
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