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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old October 29th, 2009, 13:13   #1
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Default NMS to have TDI power

I don't know if this has been mentioned (a quick search under NMS didn't find much) but I got an email reply from VWoA's Director of Public Relations regarding VW's US TDI product line. The new TDI midsize sedan is the closest we'll see to a CC TDI. The Tiguan news is a bummer though. I think they'd have a segment-buster if they offered it with the diesel - maybe the next-gen Tig? Might have to be content with Subaru's diesel Forester instead.

Hello Will,

We currently offer the the Jetta TDI Sedan and SportWagen, Golf TDI (introduced this month) and Touareg V6 TDI. Next Spring we'll offer the Jetta TDI Cup Edition, based on our successful Jetta TDI race car. The next generation Jetta TDI will be introduced next Fall. The new Midsize Sedan that will be produced in Chattanooga, Tenn. will also be available with TDI. Intro is scheduled for the Fall of 2011. We have no plans to offer the current generation Tiguan with TDI. Hope this information answers your question.

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Old November 4th, 2009, 14:22   #2
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You actually got some great info out of them with the next Jetta release date. It's very likely that Tiguan can't use the 2.0TDI without adding AdBlue components to it.

Here is VW's latest NMS sketch

http://killwithfire.blogspot.com/200...ms-sketch.html

Maybe the NMS will have the AdBlue system, maybe not.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 08:03   #3
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You actually got some great info out of them with the next Jetta release date. It's very likely that Tiguan can't use the 2.0TDI without adding AdBlue components to it.
Maybe the NMS will have the AdBlue system, maybe not.
The AdBlue system is an 800€ option in the European Passat 2.0 TDI. No big deal. The 2.0 turbo gas engine is a bit more expensive than the TDI with AdBlue.
EDIT: I can't read. The gasser is actually cheaper. 50€ cheaper.

See prices for German-spec Passat Comfortlines here:
Gas:

This clearly shows that the 2.0 turbo gasser (yellow marker) is one of the more expensive engines in the Passat lineup. Don't American-market gassers use a conventional slushbox instead of the DSG though?

Diesel:

The yellow ones have the full AdBlue system.

Bluemotion diesel: (not available in Comfortline trim, a bit less standard equipment)


Compressed Natural gas:

An interesting alternative - CNG is cheap, and if you can't find any, it still has a gas tank.

Prices include 19% VAT.

EDIT: I somehow forgot the Passat for really weird people.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 15:08   #4
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*Boggles.* Do they really have a natural gas twincharged 1.4? I'm guessing that's what the "TSI" is, is the super-turbocharger combination on the direct injected engines.

I want one of those engines!
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Old November 5th, 2009, 15:53   #5
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I would prefer the adblue system over the currently offered exhaust solution.
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Old April 5th, 2010, 11:10   #6
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I am so surprised about how little information we have about this new VW project.

It was made official by Stephan Jacobi about a diesel option 2.0L 140 vs 170 or a bran new engine.
Does anyone has more intel about manual option DSG 7sp?
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Old April 20th, 2010, 11:53   #7
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Default New Passat TDI confirmed for U.S.

In case you missed it, this was posted yesterday on the VW TDI website:

http://tdi.vw.com/vw-training-ramps-up-in-city/

The New Midsize Sedan is to be manufactured in Chattanooga and will be available with a TDI.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 12:51   #8
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So they have finally made the clear statement that TDI will be installed in a US domestic VW plant.
It was like pulling teeth !

The link to "see all TDI vehicles" from that page is a bit stale! It shows Golf is "coming soon", and the page shows a 2009 edit date. Well, now, it is the 2011 Golf that is coming soon!
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Old April 20th, 2010, 17:27   #9
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This may be just what I've been looking for to finally put a TDI in my sig!
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Old April 20th, 2010, 19:37   #10
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Not a word about a WAGEN.

VW are you listening?
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Old April 20th, 2010, 21:37   #11
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Not a word about a WAGEN.

VW are you listening?
Um....yeah....they are.....

The Jetta Sportwagen TDI was introduced in 2009. You can still buy one in 2010.
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This may be just what I've been looking for to finally put a TDI in my sig!
What's holding you back? HPFP issue is certainly a valid reason.
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How is the HPFP a valid reason? Do we have any concrete numbers on how many have failed? No. Remember, people come crying for sympathy when they have problems, not when they don't.
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What's holding you back? HPFP issue is certainly a valid reason.
Can you please explain what the acronym HPFP means ? I search the forums with the acronym, but didn't get anything useful.

Anything to do with Particulate Filter Device (PDF?) High Performance Filter Paper (HPFP?!)
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Can you please explain what the acronym HPFP means ? I search the forums with the acronym, but didn't get anything useful.
High Pressure Fuel Pump
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