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VW MKVII-Mk7 Golf family including Golf Wagon (~ 2015 +) Discussions area for the Mk7 (2015+) Golf and Golf Wagon TDIs based on the MQB (Modularer Querbaukasten) platform.

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Old August 10th, 2016, 04:37   #256
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Indeed. The "Oil motor" give most bang for the buck with highest BTU combustion over gasoline or alcohol.

And, there's no huge lead battery to contend with......
Combine that with the fact that the same expensive after-treatment exhaust systems that diesel engines have had to contend with are coming to gas engines. The idea that diesel is dead is just stupid.
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Old August 28th, 2016, 07:10   #257
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Good luck with that ever happening. BIG cars and BIG trucks are back and it's all due to the low gas prices. The people active on this site love diesels, hell I have 3 diesel vehicles and 3 other pieces of diesel equipment. But as much as it pains me to say it I think the sun is setting on the diesel market and I would be surprised to ever see another model year of diesels in the VW lineup. At this point I'm pretty sure my 2015 GSW is going back, EA288 and all regardless of the fix details.
After reviewing the offer from VW I'm reversing myself on this and keeping my 2015 GSW, at least for now. This is mostly due to the value VW is using for the '15s.

I do like the emissions warranty extension. Anyone else have any thoughts on this warranty and what it will or won't cover?
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Old August 28th, 2016, 09:46   #258
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I have a hard time deciding what to do with my 2015 GSW.
I absolutely love the car. I am on the mission to find a suitable replacement, but any car I have test driven does not come close to power, handling and fuel efficiency the GWS have. But want to turn it becauseI don't think I will ever get equal money of VW offer- for the car- trade or sell. Future of diesel cars in this country questionable.
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Old August 28th, 2016, 12:18   #259
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Do nothing. Just drive it. Consider taking the fix in a year or two if it's appealing. Ignore the money. Cars are an expense. Not worth driving something you don't like just to save a few dollars if you enjoy and can afford what you have.
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Old August 30th, 2016, 07:12   #260
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I have a hard time deciding what to do with my 2015 GSW.
I absolutely love the car. I am on the mission to find a suitable replacement, but any car I have test driven does not come close to power, handling and fuel efficiency the GWS have. But want to turn it becauseI don't think I will ever get equal money of VW offer- for the car- trade or sell. Future of diesel cars in this country questionable.
Most of us are guessing the ea-288 will be minimally impacted....since the buyback offer is pretty low on the 2015, it feels like a push to do a simple fix for these motors, take the $$, and keep driving.heck...they might go up In value a bit...
All the info says the changes to the ea288 are Minor...a couple sensors...they are so close too meeting the specs, it is more of a cover their azz types of thing...
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Old August 30th, 2016, 11:09   #261
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Most of us are guessing the ea-288 will be minimally impacted....since the buyback offer is pretty low on the 2015, it feels like a push to do a simple fix for these motors, take the $$, and keep driving.heck...they might go up In value a bit...
All the info says the changes to the ea288 are Minor...a couple sensors...they are so close too meeting the specs, it is more of a cover their azz types of thing...
Agreed, the emission's warranty extension sealed the deal for me for my 2015 GSW. If the fix neuters the performance and mileage numbers, the trade in value two years out is unlikely to have taken as big a hit as they are calculating for EA-288 buybacks now.
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Old September 5th, 2016, 18:06   #262
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I know there are lot's of VW's in Europe with the EA-288 but in the US it looks like 2015 may be last year. Anyone know what the total number is for the EA-288 in the US?
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Old September 6th, 2016, 12:05   #263
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I know there are lot's of VW's in Europe with the EA-288 but in the US it looks like 2015 may be last year. Anyone know what the total number is for the EA-288 in the US?
Yeah... it's not looking good Mazda 3 Sport GT with the 2.5L might just be my next car now.
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Old September 11th, 2016, 05:38   #264
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I know there are lot's of VW's in Europe with the EA-288 but in the US it looks like 2015 may be last year. Anyone know what the total number is for the EA-288 in the US?
I'm also very curious about this. I thought only the S model Sportwagens were available with the 6spd, SE, SEL received DSG. I'm definitely keeping my 6 speed Sportwagen!
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Old September 11th, 2016, 13:03   #265
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I love my 2015 Jetta SEL TDI 6 speed manual with every option!
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Old December 7th, 2016, 02:37   #266
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I wonder what's up with the EA-288 emission "fix"? Like many others I've received my offer letter for my intention to fix but the schedule is still up in the air. The 2015's understandably seem to be a little lost in the current process. If the EA-288 fix involves adding DEF every say 5,000 miles this could be a problem. It wouldn't bother most reading this page, we do it at home anyway. Even so it could be an issue for those owner's relying on the dealer.
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Old December 7th, 2016, 07:41   #267
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With the latest news of VW completely pulling out the diesel from the US and focusing towards electric hybrids, the future of diesel is lost.
If you want to own the last of the best diesel= classic, keep it.
I love mine and had 4 or so VW TDIs, all trouble free.
But this time I am letting it go.
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Old July 3rd, 2017, 06:10   #268
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https://www.newscientist.com/article...affected-cars/

This is a good, and fairly short read!!
But this is WHY i am not as worried about the SCR/DEF equipped cars...
That article sums up the transition to SCR. Inevitable to comply with emissions standards. Yes, SCR fixes the problem, but...

I will never forgive the reckless driver that destroyed my 2014 JSW and sent me to the emergency room. The combination of no SCR, and the "adaptive emissions management" (EPA workaround) resulted in a nice balance of excellent low/mid torque AND really great mpg, bone stock. And overall, emissions were not bad.

Sure, you can get that performance out of an older TDI, but not with the other improvements in trim, suspension (agility), more room (and range!), and comfort features (factory bluetooth and voice commands!). I like my 2015 GSW, but the 2014 was just a better car.

The added complexity and performance hit of the SCR really just puts diesel cars on par with TSI in performance and value. Definitely for smaller vehicles, where loss of range, storage space, and overall cost renders the diesel option untenable. It is no wonder that VW will not sell them in NA anymore. And, soon it won't make sense to sell them at all as emissions standards that include NOx restrictions expand throughout the world.
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Old July 3rd, 2017, 06:35   #269
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I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion. I feel just the opposite: my '15 GSW is a far nicer car than my '12 Golf. The Golf in stock form had significant turbo lag at low revs, risk of intercooler icing, poor FE, harsh ride with stock wheels and tires, and lots of rattles. The '15 is significantly better in all those areas. Only think I miss is the cloth seats in the '12.
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Old July 3rd, 2017, 08:07   #270
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I did not notice turbo lag in the '14 JSW, and improvements in the HPFP and other more minor things were addressed in that last year of the MKVI TDI wagon. It was a good time to buy a JSW.

It had more room to stash things in the glove compartment, under the front seats, and in the hatch area. All of that adds up...gone. And the smaller fuel tank is instantly noticeable when you drive out the first tank. I owned the JSW for more than two years when the accident totaled it, and it was just really beginning to plateau in fuel economy, pushing 700 miles per tank. It was always easily more than 40mpg in the city, even though I was using that torque to get up to speed. I was anxious to take it on the road again but never got the chance.

I guess I will have to wait to see how the GSW does. It will take a couple of years. But the range will never be the same unless I eventually do a retrofit larger tank installation and SCR delete (if that is even possible!).
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