Racor CCV3500 Group Buy - Barking up the Wrong Tree

Beowulf

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Just got a reply from Racor on the group buy.

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Steven,

Racor will not have a list price until the part
is released. Unfortunately, you can't purchase
direct from us, I will be happy to direct you
to the nearest Racor warehouse distributor in
your area.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Best regards,

Rick Spencer
Sales Promotion Specialist
Parker Hannifin Corporation
Racor Division

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I'll find out what info he has on warehouse distributors and report back.

[ January 03, 2002: Message edited by: Beowulf ]</p>
 

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Beowulf:

I'll find out what info he has on warehouse distributors and report back.
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Racor Distributors

Keep diggin' Beowulf!

HTH,
Patrick
 

Beowulf

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Here's what I got back from Rspenser (wow, they're quite fast in response when you use the right email address).

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From: rspencer@parker.com
To: beowulf@vwmail.net
Subject: Re: Fwd: Possible Group Buy on CCV3500...
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:23:26 -0800

Steven,

Here is a list of distributors in Virginia.
Central Diesel
Richmond, VA
804-233-9814

Paxton Company
Norfolk, VA
800-234-7290

Northern Virginia Supply (4 Locations)
Springfield, VA
703-569-7177

Alexandria, VA
703-751-5550

Monassas, VA
703-631-1891

Fredricksburg, VA
540-898-6609

Land N Sea
Norfolk, VA
757-853-7658

Let me know if you have any questions.

Best regards,

Rick Spencer
Sales Promotion Specialist
Parker Hannifin Corporation
Racor Division

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I'll probably try to deal with the Manassas location of Northern Virginia Supply since it is the closest to my home, unless anyone thinks there will be a significant advantage to shopping around.

I'll also check out that link, GMCpatrick.
 

gearhead

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Drivebywire had a listing for a distributor from which he got a great deal also (4/17/00 post in General Maint).

Diesel Service
St. Paul, MN
1-800-899-0150/ 651-643-3831

Just another possible source
 

GMCpatrick

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Beowulf:
F My I:

Northern Virginia Supply

Rockville, MD
(301)279-2430
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Glad to see you're still after it Beowulf! Any projected delivery date yet?

Thnx,
Patrick
 

Beowulf

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by GMCpatrick:


Glad to see you're still after it Beowulf! Any projected delivery date yet?

Thnx,
Patrick
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I haven't started bugging distributors yet after getting the big "No" for a direct from Racor purchase.

Given that they were saying release of the CCV3500 would come around "sometime this winter/in about 3 months" back in October, I'm inclined to think it'll be available "very soon now".

I won't have time at work until late next week to start making phone calls, and will probably know more about it by then.

I just hope these distributors are fairly knowledgable about Racor products so I don't have to go to the great lengths of explaining what I'm asking to buy before I even get to the part about the group discount...

Anyway, will report back as I have more details. We're in a wait and see pattern at the moment.
 

Beowulf

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Sent off another note to Racor today about a release date for the CCV3500. Once I get some firm details on a release date, I'll start calling some distributors.
 

tongsli

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Steven,

Where do you plan on installing this unit? Are you going to utilize the "self-draining" feature and run the return back into your oilpan/valve cover?

L
 

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by tongsli:
Steven,
Where do you plan on installing this unit? Are you going to utilize the "self-draining" feature and run the return back into your oilpan/valve cover?
L
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Lito,

FWIW, I recall Pete saying something about checking out the new Racor when available and describing the best way to do the drain return line.

-Mel
 

Beowulf

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by tongsli:
Steven,

Where do you plan on installing this unit? Are you going to utilize the "self-draining" feature and run the return back into your oilpan/valve cover?

L
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I'm not really sure where I'd mount it yet. I don't plan on utilizing the "self-draining" feature because I'm not comfortable tapping into my oil pan, but that's just me.

I have an AHU in an A3 Jetta, but I think the amount of space is more or less the same as what you've got in your A4. We'll really have to wait, though, to get specific until we have actual dimensions on the unit from Racor. Although, you might be able to mount it on the left strut tower (there are mounting holes for the fuel filter there, at least on my Jetta).
 

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Likely I am missing the point but very few people report any significant oil use in TDI engines between oil changes. If this is the case, and I have no reason to doubt, then will there actually be much oil to "drain" from this device? From the way that others talk about the lack of oil use perhaps a couple of drops per week??
 

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That's been my experience with the CCV4500...very little accumulated oil over time (I don't have the return hose connected).
 

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My concern about drainback would have to do with the collected water vapor rather than the oil. I don't know about yours but my homemade filter collects somewhere in the neighborhood of 2-3oz of water in it every 1000 miles or so.

I'm guessing the better filtration of the Racor would result in the same amount of water collection. So you're gonna have to drain the Racor regularly just to get the water out. On my A3 with the third hose, drainback will be easy, and I welcome it so that the water could evaporate in hot oil like it normally does.
 

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Originally posted by Bookerdog:
My concern about drainback would have to do with the collected water vapor rather than the oil. I don't know about yours but my homemade filter collects somewhere in the neighborhood of 2-3oz of water in it every 1000 miles or so.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Interesting, are you sure that the water is coming from the engine and not from the air with the heating cooling cycle? Have you tested the water to see if it's acidic (?) or basic? Wouldn't want to put that stuff back into the oil pan...
 

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Originally posted by Tracker:
Interesting, are you sure that the water is coming from the engine and not from the air with the heating cooling cycle? Have you tested the water to see if it's acidic (?) or basic? Wouldn't want to put that stuff back into the oil pan...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No I haven't tested the water to tell determine the PH, but then, once it's in the filter, it's mixing with the collected oil and the copper filter medium, so I don't think you'd get an accurate reading anyway.

Nearly every trip with my car gets the oil hot enough to evaporate the water that collects in the engine during the natural heating cooling cycle. I should say that I've only had my filter on since November, so the amount of water collected will probably be less in the warmer months.

I do have my filter mounted near the battery with long hoses running from the still connected CCV disk, so it is certainly possible that the condensation is coming from the cooling blowby gasses as they run to the filter. However, when I pull it to drain the fluid, the copper filter pads are always wet, so that fluid is coming from the pressuized air moving through them.

From the reports here, it seems that water vapor is one of the main components of the blowby gasses. Since that water vapor would normally be dumped into the intake track and expelled through the combustion chamber, having a completely closed system where the water is returned to the oil pan is a big concern of mine.

I suppose I should ask DBW how his does, as he has a 4500 with the drainback installed on his A3.
 

Tracker

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Still interesting. If it's "only" water and in such small amounts, spread out over time, you wouldn't think that it would cause a problem. If the PH were only slightly high or low, still should not be a problem. Was my understanding that it is the oil component that has everyone upset, seems that you are adding something to the equation for me.

Thanks
 
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