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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old June 20th, 2017, 18:11   #1
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Default Memory seat rhyme and reason

So while this never happened once in 90k miles of ownership of my 13 SEL, at least three times now in my 15 SEL, with about 3k miles, when I unlock the door, the seat will move to memory position 3, which is my oldest sons. Its typically after the third or fourth unlocking of the day while running around to different places so its not bmw style where it is remembering the setting of who last locked the door with which remote. I can be out half the day, with the same key, and all of the sudden when I unlock it the car will choose memory 3. Is there witchery afoot? Do I need a priest? Or can someone explain the way that system is supposed to work? Other than this strange issue, the car is flawless other than the leather on the drivers seat already starting to wrinkle and crease.
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Old June 20th, 2017, 20:07   #2
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IIRC, on my 2013 at least, the manual hada procedure to pair seat memory to a specific FOB (also pairs mirror settings) . . . And it's not the FOB who locked it, it's which one unlocked it, and I have had cases where my wife was standing next to the car on the passenger side, and I pulled the drivers handle, and it read her fob and my door, and I got her seat positions. Got odd when she lost a FOB under the seat tracks as well, but otherwise, I have never had it fail to get the correct settings . . . but then again, I read the manual, cover to cover on day one, and set everything up right off the bat . . .

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Old June 20th, 2017, 20:10   #3
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It's strange that it would do it randomly. If you had paired the seat settings to a key accidentally, I would expect it to happen every time.
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Old June 21st, 2017, 02:51   #4
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I don't recall seeing anything in my '15 manual about matching settings to a key fob.

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p.s. I still say computers and cars do not mix. I miss Katy the Mercedes.
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It's strange that it would do it randomly. If you had paired the seat settings to a key accidentally, I would expect it to happen every time.
Most of the time, our '13 SEL works the way it's supposed to (the seat adjusting to my setting when I get into the car, and the same when my wife does). A few times it's gotten confused, but that's been when we both get in, each carrying our fob, and it gets the seat adjustment backwards for who's driving. But so what, push the button and adjust it.....
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Old June 21st, 2017, 05:46   #6
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Mine for sure happens when there is only one key anywhere near the car, and is very unrepeatable. I don’t necessarily think anything is “broken”, but was curious if I was the only one experiencing it. Thanks for the input.
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I don't recall seeing anything in my '15 manual about matching settings to a key fob.

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p.s. I still say computers and cars do not mix. I miss Katy the Mercedes.
Is yours an SEL Premium? Is SEL Premium even a thing on 2015s? I don't know.
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Yes it is . . . and other than the engine change and the car new stuff in the 2015 overhead, they appear identical to prior years. For that reason, I have not dug into the 2015 manual yet, but might one of these days, just in case I missed something.
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Yes it is . . . and other than the engine change and the car new stuff in the 2015 overhead, they appear identical to prior years. For that reason, I have not dug into the 2015 manual yet, but might one of these days, just in case I missed something.
OK. You can probably pair the remotes to the memory seats in that case. I forget the procedure, unfortunately.
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Update: Went for a drive with my wife this evening, and she was the last person to drive the car. As soon as I unlocked the door, with my own fob in my pocket, the seat and mirrors immediately returned to my preset positions. So apparently it IS based on the specific key fob.

Apparently it defaults to position 1 in the event of a conflict, though, because I set up her preset using my fob. I'll have to reprogram hers using her fob and see if the car gets it right both ways.

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Is yours an SEL Premium? Is SEL Premium even a thing on 2015s? I don't know.
I don't know if it's a "premium" or not. I can't imagine any more gadgets that it could have, so I'm assuming it is. My daughter's 2017 TSI 1.8T has the "radar brakes" and the blind spot warning, and a couple of other electronic stuff that mine doesn't have, but I assume those just weren't available in 2015. (The radar brakes already saved her bacon at least once.)

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Update: Went for a drive with my wife this evening, and she was the last person to drive the car. As soon as I unlocked the door, with my own fob in my pocket, the seat and mirrors immediately returned to my preset positions. So apparently it IS based on the specific key fob.

Apparently it defaults to position 1 in the event of a conflict, though, because I set up her preset using my fob. I'll have to reprogram hers using her fob and see if the car gets it right both ways.

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To record settings to a particular FOB, that FOB has to unlock the vehicle. That has thrown a couple of people for a loop in the past.
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IIRC, on my 2013 at least, the manual had a procedure to pair seat memory to a specific FOB (also pairs mirror settings) . . . And it's not the FOB who locked it, it's which one unlocked it, and I have had cases where my wife was standing next to the car on the passenger side, and I pulled the drivers handle, and it read her fob and my door, and I got her seat positions. Got odd when she lost a FOB under the seat tracks as well, but otherwise, I have never had it fail to get the correct settings . . . but then again, I read the manual, cover to cover on day one, and set everything up right off the bat . . .
I am not sure if the fobs "duel" with each other in this scenario. (I'm the only one who drives my Passat SEL and am only one with a fob so... )

Anyway, fob range seems limited. Once I had it parked with the driver's window down and wanted to lower the passenger front door window which was closed so I leaned thru the open window to press the 'Start' button to activate the 'accessory' position. I immediately got a message on the MFA display that my key was not in range. Once I got in and sat in the driver's seat then the fob enabled the 'accessory' position so the range seems tailored to a seated driver in this case.

Now I know my fob will also lock/unlock the car from the front passenger door. Unknown to me is how a person by each front door both with a fob programmed to that car is which fob it goes off of? I suspect whoever's fob is in range first and unlocks the door gets the nod so seats/mirrors will change to match that fob's settings. Perhaps that's what happened here?
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I've confirmed that the seat will immediately go to the preset associated with the fob used to unlock the car. Don't know what happens if there is a conflict.

VeeDubTDI is right: To associate a fob with a seat preset you must UNLOCK the car with that fob before you go through the seat setup procedure.

And remember that in order for the system to memorize outside mirror positions the car must be started and the transmission put in neutral before you do the setup.

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First one read wins . . . If my wife gets to the car first, and even if I put my hand on the door handle to open it before her, I get her settings . . . If both are carrying a fob, you need to get into the habit of the driver stepping up first . . . .

And all the procedures for remembering mirror settings, etc. are in the manual . . . and, iirc, that interrelates to the seat memory - that might be where settings for the mirrors are kept, dunno . ..
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