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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old June 11th, 2017, 14:12   #1
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I KNEW it was too good to be true! The dealer called me and let me know that they accidentally sold me a 2015 Passat TDI that hadn't been retrofitted yet. But for a few hundred miles I got to enjoy the most evil vehicle since German cattle cars.

Oh well.

So it's back at the dealer waiting for parts to make it politically correct and socially responsible. What, exactly, does that entail? The Passat already has urea injection. What other hardware is involved? What kind of performance and mileage penalty can I expect?

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Old June 11th, 2017, 14:13   #2
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Meanwhile I get a 2017 1.8T loaner, which is pretty nifty in its own right and gets better fuel economy than it has a right to.

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Old June 11th, 2017, 16:41   #3
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Meanwhile I get a 2017 1.8T loaner, which is pretty nifty in its own right and gets better fuel economy than it has a right to. -mickey
The "Fuel economy" goes out the window with the cost of premium gas !
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Old June 11th, 2017, 17:38   #4
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The "Fuel economy" goes out the window with the cost of premium gas !
From Daily Drive:

"More good news: Volkswagen recommends regular-grade gas for all models equipped with the 1.8-liter engine."*

*Referring to the 1.8 TSI.
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Old June 11th, 2017, 18:01   #5
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I KNEW it was too good to be true! The dealer called me and let me know that they accidentally sold me a 2015 Passat TDI that hadn't been retrofitted yet. But for a few hundred miles I got to enjoy the most evil vehicle since German cattle cars.
Oh well.
So it's back at the dealer waiting for parts to make it politically correct and socially responsible. What, exactly, does that entail? The Passat already has urea injection. What other hardware is involved? What kind of performance and mileage penalty can I expect?
-mickey
It is a software update only. 2 big differences I saw were DSG behavior (improved) and slightly louder engine noise on highway. As for MPG, I had a 2013 before and it's better, but that was a completely different engine.
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Old June 11th, 2017, 20:43   #6
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The only parts changed are filters, and that's just the prep for sale, and has absolutely nothing to do with the fix. Check under the hood for the sticker - maybe they did flash it, and if so, you would be in your rights to tell them to pound sand . . . it's legal.
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Old June 12th, 2017, 09:47   #7
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Do you get the Cash settlement?
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Old June 12th, 2017, 19:06   #8
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The "Fuel economy" goes out the window with the cost of premium gas !
The cost of diesel isn't exactly a selling point.

My F-150 Ecoboost ran on regular, but I paid premium price for alcohol-free fuel. I don't worry too much about the price of a gallon. I try to use as few gallons as I can. At 45+ mpg it's not much of an issue. (Or even at 23 mpg in a huge crew cab 4x4.)

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Old June 12th, 2017, 20:29   #9
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Diesel should be less, here unleaded is $2.49 and diesel is $2.34
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Old June 12th, 2017, 22:24   #10
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The cost of diesel isn't exactly a selling point.
My F-150 Ecoboost ran on regular, but I paid premium price for alcohol-free fuel. I don't worry too much about the price of a gallon. I try to use as few gallons as I can. At 45+ mpg it's not much of an issue. (Or even at 23 mpg in a huge crew cab 4x4.)
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...when I was in CA a few weeks back pretty much everywhere outside of overcrowded crazy with toooooo many people in small areas SF Bay region & S Cal(orange, san bernardino & L A counties) areas D2 was as much as ~0.20-0.30 a gal cheaper....I could never live like that!!

Once I got into NV & UT that reversed to fuel being more expensive than RUG...

In CO right now RUG & D2 are pretty much at parity ~2.20-2.35 for both....
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Old June 13th, 2017, 04:36   #11
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Diesel should be less, here unleaded is $2.49 and diesel is $2.34

There is no "should." There is a thread tracking the price of fuel, and it can be all over the place, depending on where you live, and the prices of diesel and RUG chase one another. We take a regular weekly 100 mile road trip, and I can track a 50 cent per gallon difference in D2 over that short distance. Last week I saw a high of $2.39 at a rural BP, and a low of $1.93 at a Mobil. The price is what it is.
Personally, we buy at the same local high-volume station, so that the fuel is more a known quantity and I can track it, since I keep all receipts. Been paying $2.19 there for D2 since April.
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Old June 13th, 2017, 06:55   #12
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Mickey, assuming u somehow managed to get the title, that mishap can prolly be worked in your favor - as in becoming a fixer and collecting $6K+. But it will take ballz of brass.

My understanding is that VW wont release the title till dealer proves to them, 101%, that Phase I has been applied.
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Old June 14th, 2017, 05:33   #13
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The "Fuel economy" goes out the window with the cost of premium gas !

Gen3 TSI was designed from the get go to run on 87 octane, unless you chip it and track it you're wasting your money feeding it premium.
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Gen3 TSI was designed from the get go to run on 87 octane, unless you chip it and track it you're wasting your money feeding it premium.
Altho the TDI JSW 6M awaiting buyback - in several areas - is superior to my 1.8 TSI 5M GSW possible replacement:

It does look a lot like my wagen. It has the space spatial appeal/efficiency.

It comes with a new car warranty.

I'll have $$$$ left over for lots of Crown Royal.

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Old June 15th, 2017, 16:32   #15
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ho Mickey!!!

You need to let me tune that one.

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