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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old June 4th, 2017, 10:06   #46
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I will do thanks. I'm baffled. The fix for gen 2 Passats is just a 1hr software upload. Why are they replacing the nox on your car?
Crap, I just noticed the last page of my packet included a separate recall issue that's being fixed on my car. This is what they were telling me about: "Inlet Air Box Housing Snow Flap Replacement & Oxygen Sensor Inspection/Replacement 2012-2014 Model Year Volkswagen Passat 2.0L TDI (Gen 2)"

Sorry for the misinformation there as to the potential of a NOx sensor replacement.

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Old June 4th, 2017, 10:56   #47
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Oh, I see, thanks for clarifying.
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Old June 5th, 2017, 09:34   #48
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I got my packet, covered to only 120k, so that sucks... my local dealer couldn't schedule me in as they are unaware of the gen2 fix-
reread the statement, you will fall into the 48,000 mile or 4 years of additional driving camp. This is why i will be waiting until the end of the period to get the fix done....
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Old June 5th, 2017, 12:38   #49
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Bringing my 2013 SE in tomorrow. Im kind of skeptical on how smoothly this fix is going to be. the dealer asked me to leave my car all day. Because the ran into some hiccups on the last car.I guess im going to be the guinea pig. Last time i had my car at the dealer they messed up the install of the heater core.
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Old June 5th, 2017, 13:00   #50
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sounds like its a full reprogram of the engine ecm and also the DSG- as long as the battery doesn't go dead during the upload it should be all good
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Old June 5th, 2017, 13:51   #51
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I was in and out of the dealership in under 45 minutes today, and that included the snow flap and checking the Oxygen sensor.

Only drove it home, but on initial impressions, I didn't notice any added engine noise, but I DEFINITELY noticed a flare on the first to second shift. Almost like it's hesitating. That will take some getting used to.

I'm going to top up before I go to work Wednesday night, then I'm driving about 650 miles to NJ. I'll report back on economy on Thursday night.
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Old June 5th, 2017, 21:49   #52
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We go in for the fix at 1000 hrs tomorrow. They want me to leave the car but I think not. Will let you know first impressions.
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Old June 6th, 2017, 16:39   #53
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Had the update done this morning, only difference seems to be the transmission shifting later and holding the gear a little longer, gas mileage on my 87 mile trip home was same as before 49+ mpg.
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Old June 6th, 2017, 17:08   #54
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gas mileage on my 87 mile trip home was same as before 49+ mpg.
Better not be GAS mileage !!!!
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Old June 6th, 2017, 19:45   #55
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Had my 13 passat in for the fix today. Did anyone else have to have a 3 way call with the dealer and VoA. VoA wanted to make sure i approved the fix before they would give the software code to dealer. Also i needed to give my claim# to dealer. invoice stated snow flap replacement and software.02 sensor didnt require replacement. So far i noticed the car shifts around 3000 rpm in first and second and all other gears shift around 2200 rpm. And while driving on the highway going between 80 and 90 mph my scangauge was reading between 650 and 700 degrees. i think thats a little higher then normal. Engine sound is slightly louder at idle.
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Old June 6th, 2017, 22:50   #56
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I was the first gen 2 23U4 update for my dealer, I called ahead and had a long wait time and had to give my claim # over the phone in order to keep my apt as they were not aware of gen 2's getting sent in this week- I got the feeling they were in contact with vwoa while I was on hold. I also had to give the claim number again at the dealer- was completed in 2 hours with zero bs. I noticed that The car now drags shifts above 2k even at 1/16th throttle downhill- gone are the nice early torquey shifts at part throttle- yet once in a gear it still chug a lugs 4th gear 1,200RPM at 30mph uphill threw my small rural town- I was hoping the new software would hold 3rd at 30 as it vibrates the car but o'well the update was well worth the $6K. I am also interested in how the 23U4 compares to the turbo failure fix 23N5 during warmup cycle
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Old June 7th, 2017, 07:19   #57
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I had to contact VWoA from dealership to get the codes for my fix and dealership verification. Well it took about 2 hours to get the fix. Dealership test drove car for approx 10 miles. The engine noise at an idle has increased but not a lot. At 68mph the tachometer was showing 2000 with cruise control on, before, the pointer was just a bit above 2000 with cruise control on. I drove about 25 miles and did not feel any difference in pickup.

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We go in for the fix at 1000 hrs tomorrow. They want me to leave the car but I think not. Will let you know first impressions.
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Old June 7th, 2017, 12:38   #58
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I had the fix yesterday, no difference in mileage: 47 miles one way, mostly highway (55 mph), 53.1 mpg there and 53.0 coming home, which included the technician test driving.

I could not notice any substantial change in driving characteristics or engine noise.

My car has only 21,570 miles and I wanted to get the fix done ASAP to maximize the warranty coverage, which for me will be 10 years from in-service date.

The dealer told me they HAD to do the additional snow flap/air box recall included with the emissions recall notice or else they would not be able to complete the emissions recall; first they told me they did not have the parts for the snow flap recall then they looked again and found it. Suggestion: make sure the dealer has the parts for the snow flap recall before you bring in for the emissions fix in case you get this run-around.
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Old June 7th, 2017, 21:36   #59
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We had the fix yesterday, it is now 2238 hrs(1038 PM) I just received an email that my check is at Chase Bank. And at midnight the funds will be cancelled I do not have an account at Chase! NOW WHAT? You can bet I will be on the phone to VWoA first thing in the morning.


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I had to contact VWoA from dealership to get the codes for my fix and dealership verification. Well it took about 2 hours to get the fix. Dealership test drove car for approx 10 miles. The engine noise at an idle has increased but not a lot. At 68mph the tachometer was showing 2000 with cruise control on, before, the pointer was just a bit above 2000 with cruise control on. I drove about 25 miles and did not feel any difference in pickup.
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Old June 8th, 2017, 05:19   #60
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So, I am an hour into my road trip. My fuel mileage is abysmally low. Only showing tank endurance of 780 miles. Struggling to get over 44.4 average on the display. Car feels like it is struggling to maintain speed. Having to use a lot more throttle just to hold 65 miles per hour. Not very pleased right now.
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