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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old June 2nd, 2017, 15:30   #31
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Yes, it would be nice to have people come back and post their post-fix results, not only fuel efficiency, but also performance and DEF consumption.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 15:55   #32
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Just scheduled the fix. I will repost with handling, fuel consumption and other changes
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 18:47   #33
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Please do. I'm keeping mine and am doing the fix and would like to know before I do. Thanks. Also my cel is on for nox bank 1 and I'm wondering if I need to have them fix (replace) it for 1500$ cad before they will do the recall fix that would be a bummer as after the fix the entire emissions system will be warranteed.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 18:49   #34
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Please do. I'm keeping mine and am doing the fix and would like to know before I do. Thanks. Also my cel is on for nox bank 1 and I'm wondering if I need to have them fix (replace) it for 1500$ cad before they will do the recall fix that would be a bummer as after the fix the entire emissions system will be warranteed.
Talk to your servicing dealer. Mine called me today to get the claim number from me and also told me a new sensor would be installed in the exhaust. Thinking NOx as it's pertinent to the fix.
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 08:45   #35
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Got my notice from VW yesterday and am scheduled to have the fix done on June 21. I'll relay my results on here to the group after it is done.
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 08:58   #36
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Got my appointment for next week...along with a few other recalls listed for my 2013 Passat TDI SE. Anxious to see how the car is affected. Literature I received is downplaying any performance changes. More AdBlue use is noted. Also have a fairly substantial road trip in July that will tell the tale. Currently about 500 miles a week averaging about 42mpg. Lets hope post-fix mpg. is comparable.
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 09:22   #37
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I'm wondering if it was just a coincidence that the gen 2 fix became available so soon after the new 2015 TDIs were made available for sale and then mostly sold. If it had been the other way around we might have had our 13 SE fixed and kept it. VW might have thought they could quickly get rid of the new 2015s to those of us who really like the TDI but weren't sure if/when a fix would be available for the 12-14 Passats. Doesn't matter to us now as we love the new 15 SEL we're now driving. Good luck to those who are getting the fix, I sincerely hope that it goes well for everyone with no issues.
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 12:46   #38
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Talk to your servicing dealer. Mine called me today to get the claim number from me and also told me a new sensor would be installed in the exhaust. Thinking NOx as it's pertinent to the fix.
I will do thanks. I'm baffled. The fix for gen 2 Passats is just a 1hr software upload. Why are they replacing the nox on your car?
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 14:38   #39
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I will do thanks. I'm baffled. The fix for gen 2 Passats is just a 1hr software upload. Why are they replacing the nox on your car?
Dealership told me that it was being replaced as part of the fix. I'll verify this on monday.

On another note, has anyone looked at what is actually covered under the extended warranty in the packet? I just got my packet today and was FLOORED by what they're covering.

Entire Exhaust after treatment system

ENTIRE fuel system

EGR system

Charge Air Temp Sensor and Mass Air Sensor

Turbo and damper

OBD system.

That's the three biggest ticket items I can think of (DPF, Turbo, HPFP) and they just got extended in my case for another 4/48 as I'm already over 119K. That's a solid 2 1/2 years worth of use for me that I have a pretty solid piece of mind about now. Pretty pleased about that.
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 16:00   #40
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If I read it right it seems to cover most of the engine.
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 16:56   #41
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We have a 2014 Passat with 39000 miles, they extended our warranty for 10 years from the original in-service date. That gives us roughly 7 years extended warranty.

"Additionally, the engine long block warranty shall cover the engine sub-assembly that consists of the assembled block, crankshaft, cylinder head, camshaft and valve train."
The BEST part. "Conflicts concerning the warranty are to be resolved in favor of the consumer"



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Dealership told me that it was being replaced as part of the fix. I'll verify this on monday.

On another note, has anyone looked at what is actually covered under the extended warranty in the packet? I just got my packet today and was FLOORED by what they're covering.

Entire Exhaust after treatment system

ENTIRE fuel system

EGR system

Charge Air Temp Sensor and Mass Air Sensor

Turbo and damper

OBD system.

That's the three biggest ticket items I can think of (DPF, Turbo, HPFP) and they just got extended in my case for another 4/48 as I'm already over 119K. That's a solid 2 1/2 years worth of use for me that I have a pretty solid piece of mind about now. Pretty pleased about that.
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 17:01   #42
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Got the "fix packet" in the mail today. Not doing it, will turn car in Dec. of next year.
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 18:28   #43
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Yes feeling better about about the extra 48k of covered driving, will hold out till the last possible date to fix and then will be covered from that point forward. If i have any issues coming up after that time i would feel more than comfortable proceeding with a tune and a delete.
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 19:52   #44
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I got my packet, covered to only 120k, so that sucks... my local dealer couldn't schedule me in as they are unaware of the gen2 fix-
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Old June 4th, 2017, 09:51   #45
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I am a canadian NMS Passat owner and am keeping my car and getting the "approved emissions modification" the letter issued to canadian customers for the gen3 fix (gen 2 pamphlet has not been issued yet for Canada but I assume it will be similar to gen 3) covers a warrantee statement that covers similar things but has this concerning clause:

" The Extended Emissions Warranty covers all components which are replaced as part of the emissions modification and any component which can reasonably be impacted by effects of the emissions modification."

The term reasonably impacted is subjective and I'm not sure who's interpretation it is but I'm asssuming the dealer's. Granted the incentive is going to be for the dealer to want to grab the work and get paid the money by VW but I'm sure they have to answer to VW so I'm wondering in all practicality how much would actually be allowed under warrantee when the gen 2 fix is software only. So I'm unsure a person will be able to claim a engine, hpfp, dpf etc in actuality for free (on vw) thoughts people?
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