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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old October 2nd, 2013, 16:32   #61
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Looking for this update...can someone message me a link where I can dwload?

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Old October 2nd, 2013, 16:36   #62
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Looking for this update...can someone message me a link where I can dwload?

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Sorry Chris! I got your message, but my Inbox has been slammed with questions and requests. I'll PM you shortly.
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Old October 2nd, 2013, 16:37   #63
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FWIW, mine did fine on the first try in 12 hour mode . . .

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Seems to be a few flaky ones, I would say about 10 so far that the 24Hr setting helps with.
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Old October 2nd, 2013, 16:40   #64
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Seems to be a few flaky ones, I would say about 10 so far that the 24Hr setting helps with.
Didn't even realize as my clock is already in 24hr mode.

I did notice that time now will toggle on the same soft button as the preset button.
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Old October 2nd, 2013, 17:07   #65
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Thanks to Loki, I successfully updated to the new version.

I'm curious on a few things though:

1. 7994 (V5.2) is a reorganized version of 7870 (V5), but both has same content. How about 7963? Does this version have the same structure as 7870 or the database structure of reorganized 7994 (ie improved access...)?

2. If I decided to move back to V5.2, will the system allow me to install an older version? or it is not backward compatible?
I know 7994 is different than 7870, supposedly to improve indexing. The Data doesn't change in location, just how the 510 looks for it.

I will look a little closer at the 7963 index in comparison to 7994, and see if it matters. My 7963 runs just fine with 4366, so I am not willing to load 7994 at this time.

As far as installing, the 510 doesn't look at newer or older, just different. If you have 7963 loaded, and put the 7963 disc in, you will not get a prompt. If you have 7994 loaded, and put the 7994 disc in you will not get a prompt. If you put a disc in different than what you have loaded you will get the prompt to install, either older or newer.

Clear as mud?
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Old October 2nd, 2013, 18:02   #66
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Again, I will say this one more time. If you have 4366 loaded and your unit continues to reboot/hangup, then you have a faulty unit.
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Thanks, but I've complained a bunch, including with VW Consumer Relations. Thus far, I've found that VW and the dealer frankly don't seem to give a hoot about their customers in any possible way.
To be fair, I think he knows he has a "bad" unit.

I'm glad you listed the lunch list of "updates and/or fixes" VW has tried to distro, but really? Do we need a half dozen different head units on the street that all require different versions of disc's to fix a problem? And it depends on if your unit was installed between 2pm and 8:45 pm on the 2nd Tuesday of the odd month, the disc you try to load might brick it (if it's the wrong disc)? That's pretty much what it's come to IMO. At least VW sent out a disc so I will give them hats off for that. I've had my 2011 Town&Country since new and Chrysler hasn't sent me diddly squat (well, they do send me notices to come in and get my tranny flashed every once in awhile ) But I think some of us look at these updates as a mine field and take a chance to fix/update something that should have been addressed LONG LONG ago.

Thanks for your list but as far as the gripping goes, did you REALLY think it wouldn't happen? Just sayin

Oh, and by the way.. I did do my update. Took over 2 hours. Don't have the disk with me so not sure what "version" it was or what radio RNS510 is in my car. All I know is it's still stalls if you press too many buttons at once. It's like yelling squirrel while a hunter is trying to order from McDonald drive through.
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Old October 2nd, 2013, 18:31   #67
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Seems to be a few flaky ones, I would say about 10 so far that the 24Hr setting helps with.
Understood - my point being that is not a 'hard' requirement, and we don't know how it is related, other than apparently having been seen 10 times or so . . .

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Old October 2nd, 2013, 19:32   #68
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On a positive note...I have successfully installed the 4366 Firmware with the 7963 map. I can now say (after testing) the difference between the original 3696 firmware and the 4366 firmware is a substantial improvement. The responsiveness is night and day. I can't honestly say if the newer map version has made much difference at this point as I have only had it for a few days. Time will tell but the first impressions are good.
The installation process was simple and the directions that were included were spot on. You will need a few hours to complete the project but this is time well spent. I was also successful with installing the VIM vehicle in motion crack as well. Don't think it will be much use to me but my son sure does appreciate it.

So in closing let me say thanks to LokiWolf for your help and efforts. It is certainly people like you that help this world spin just a little smother.
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Old October 2nd, 2013, 19:36   #69
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Understood - my point being that is not a 'hard' requirement, and we don't know how it is related, other than apparently having been seen 10 times or so . . .

- Tim
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Old October 2nd, 2013, 20:05   #70
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In case you missed what WHMjr said To be fair, I think he knows he has a "bad" unit.

I'm glad you listed the lunch list of "updates and/or fixes" VW has tried to distro, but really? Do we need a half dozen different head units on the street that all require different versions of disc's to fix a problem? And it depends on if your unit was installed between 2pm and 8:45 pm on the 2nd Tuesday of the odd month, the disc you try to load might brick it (if it's the wrong disc)? That's pretty much what it's come to IMO. At least VW sent out a disc so I will give them hats off for that. I've had my 2011 Town&Country since new and Chrysler hasn't sent me diddly squat (well, they do send me notices to come in and get my tranny flashed every once in awhile ) But I think some of us look at these updates as a mine field and take a chance to fix/update something that should have been addressed LONG LONG ago.

Thanks for your list but as far as the gripping goes, did you REALLY think it wouldn't happen? Just sayin

Oh, and by the way.. I did do my update. Took over 2 hours. Don't have the disk with me so not sure what "version" it was or what radio RNS510 is in my car. All I know is it's still stalls if you press too many buttons at once. It's like yelling squirrel while a hunter is trying to order from McDonald drive through.
WHMJr and I have taken the conversation over to PM, he has apologized to me, and I to him for the direction the posts went. We are done discussing that. I read EVERY one of his posts more than once. I know exactly what he said and didn't say. We have moved on, how about you?

Take the energy ya'll are directing on this forum complaining and direct it at VW. WHMJr has done just that, hence why he and his dealer are discussing buyback. I AM TRYING TO HELP. Complaining about it on this forum in this thread, will do little to no good. On their FB page, calling the VW service line(Not Dealer), and sending e-mails to VW customer service would be a better utilization of your time if you actually wanted to do something about it.

The disc VW sent out is next to useless. It might make a SMALL improvement in the unit, but only during NAV functions, not general use of the radio. You have a 2013, so you had 3696 Firmware, and 7870 Maps. Now you still have 3696 Firmware, and 7994 Maps. You wasted 2 hours. You could have done the 4366 firmware update, and 7963 Map update in that same time, and actually fixed some of the issues, and had a year newer Map data.
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Old October 3rd, 2013, 06:22   #71
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Installed FW 4366 on first try with no issues with clock in 12 hour mode. Saw similar "improvements" after update as noted in earlier threads. Still running maps 7994, look to change to 7963 this weekend.
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Ran the update last week and it took about 3+ hrs. I had one of the early 2013s with the 510. There really hasn't been any real change in the speed.

I did notice the book that came with the CD talked about having topographic info instead of weather but nothing seemed to change on the unit itself.
Called the help number at VW and they didn't know anything about it but it was a call center.......they're always the last to know.

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I did notice the book that came with the CD talked about having topographic info instead of weather but nothing seemed to change on the unit itself.
Called the help number at VW and they didn't know anything about it but it was a call center.......they're always the last to know.

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Hmm... i am installing 5.2 as we speak just to see it the topographic function really works...
also i put the pages mentioning it on flickr for lokiwolf or anyone else interested to see
perhaps this will appear in a future FW update?
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Old October 3rd, 2013, 13:59   #74
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Clear as mud?
crystal!

i love the auto zoom feature on the map. but i noticed since the update, it disengaged itself twice already.

not a big deal, just an observation...
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Old October 3rd, 2013, 14:17   #75
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Ran the update last week and it took about 3+ hrs. I had one of the early 2013s with the 510. There really hasn't been any real change in the speed.

I did notice the book that came with the CD talked about having topographic info instead of weather but nothing seemed to change on the unit itself.
Called the help number at VW and they didn't know anything about it but it was a call center.......they're always the last to know.

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Which update did you install? Map or firmware?

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