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VW MKVI-A6 Golf family including Jetta SportWagen (~ 2010-2014) Discussions area for A6/MkVI (2010-2014) Golf and Golf Wagons (Jetta Sportwagon in the USA).

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Old October 28th, 2011, 08:39   #1
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Has anyone else noticed the back-up lighting on these JSW's is worthless?

Yesterday in a dark area I couldn't see a thing as I backed up.......and yes, they're coming on.

Are there any mods or stronger bulbs that anyone knows of?
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Old October 28th, 2011, 13:33   #2
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Old October 28th, 2011, 14:39   #3
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You're kidding, right?

If you honestly feel these back-up lights do anything, then I need to bring my car into the dealer to see *** is going on.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 16:09   #4
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I bought some high power halogen replacement bulbs for my last car. They work really well. When my last car died, I pulled the bulbs out and stuck them in the JSW.

http://www.amazon.com/Halogen-Style-.../dp/B0007N207G

I agree, the JSW's back up lighting is marginal. These halogen bulbs definitely help, but I'd still say they are less than what my last car could do.

Just a warning: These bulbs are way overpowered for the application. They run hot, and the box even has a warning on them not to leave them on for long periods. I've never had a problem with them, but it is something to consider. I'm going to run them until I can figure out a good LED replacement.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 17:02   #5
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Having only ONE clear lens out back doesn't help matters either. Check twice, reverse slowly, and be careful.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 17:26   #6
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I bought some high power halogen replacement bulbs for my last car. They work really well. When my last car died, I pulled the bulbs out and stuck them in the JSW.

http://www.amazon.com/Halogen-Style-.../dp/B0007N207G

I agree, the JSW's back up lighting is marginal. These halogen bulbs definitely help, but I'd still say they are less than what my last car could do.

Just a warning: These bulbs are way overpowered for the application. They run hot, and the box even has a warning on them not to leave them on for long periods. I've never had a problem with them, but it is something to consider. I'm going to run them until I can figure out a good LED replacement.
Thanks for the link. I'm going to order a couple and change out the dim lights they put on these cars.

I actually asked my daughter the other day to get out of the car and look to see if the back-ups were even on.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 17:27   #7
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Having only ONE clear lens out back doesn't help matters either. Check twice, reverse slowly, and be careful.
Exactly!.. Now I just have to figure out how to take t he lens housing off so I an put in the halogens StaceyS suggested.
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Old October 29th, 2011, 12:55   #8
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You're kidding, right?

If you honestly feel these back-up lights do anything, then I need to bring my car into the dealer to see *** is going on.
No....they even are brighter than the Expedition we have, and they are huge. I guess I've always had crap reverse lights!

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Old October 29th, 2011, 13:48   #9
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I think some car companies think reversing lights are more "indicators" rather than lights you actually use to see with. (Letting other drivers know you are backing up, vs actually letting you see what you are backing up into)

For most suburban drivers, I think this is fine, since most reversing is done in parking lots and other lit areas. For those of us in more rural areas, backing up at night needs lights that actually light up where you're going.

My last car was an '85 Volvo 740 and the reversing lights were huge, with a proper reflector and decent lens. With the halogen bulbs, I had no problem lighting up to see. The JSW has probably 1/2 or 1/3 less light coming out, even with the same bulbs.
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Old October 29th, 2011, 14:37   #10
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I'm going to run them until I can figure out a good LED replacement.
Is the back-up lighting monitored like the other circuits ? Wouldn't LEDs throw some code and a warning light in the cluster ?
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Old October 29th, 2011, 15:08   #11
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I think some car companies think reversing lights are more "indicators" rather than lights you actually use to see with. (Letting other drivers know you are backing up, vs actually letting you see what you are backing up into)

For most suburban drivers, I think this is fine, since most reversing is done in parking lots and other lit areas. For those of us in more rural areas, backing up at night needs lights that actually light up where you're going.

My last car was an '85 Volvo 740 and the reversing lights were huge, with a proper reflector and decent lens. With the halogen bulbs, I had no problem lighting up to see. The JSW has probably 1/2 or 1/3 less light coming out, even with the same bulbs.
Exactly. Although I do not live in a rural area, there are poorly lit parking lots where I can't see anything when backing. I mean, I can't even tell the back up lights have come on.

My MZB and Porsche throw out light almost like the headlights......that is a good thing.
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Old October 29th, 2011, 21:38   #12
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If my backup lights don't illuminate anything when they come on, that just tells me there is nothing directly behind me... I don't need to see 100 feet behind me to back up 15 feet.
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Old October 30th, 2011, 08:59   #13
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If my backup lights don't illuminate anything when they come on, that just tells me there is nothing directly behind me... I don't need to see 100 feet behind me to back up 15 feet.
I agree with you and neither do I. But mine don't illuminate anything.....15 ft or closer. Heck, a lit candle would provide better lighting.

These BU lights are worthless. I'm going to change out the bulbs to halogens to see if that helps.
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Old October 30th, 2011, 18:31   #14
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I saw someone who had put HIDs in their Mk5... waaaaay to bright, but I liked the thought. They are weak-sauce on my Golf too..
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Old October 31st, 2011, 11:56   #15
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I don't need to see 100 feet behind me to back up 15 feet.
Not so much needed for distance as being able to see stuff around and on the ground I'm about to back over. Its happened to me enough times over the years that I have found myself benefiting from brighter reversing lights: being on narrow dirt roads, construction sites, irregular and non-paved surfaces. I don't go looking for such circumstances, but such is my life and the operating conditions of my vehicle. (Our JSW is 11 months old and has a little over 10k miles on it. I'd estimate that it has about 200 miles of off road or non-paved surface miles on it.)
Also, as we enter the snowy season, being able to see areas of snow, and have enough light to be able to judge that snow (freshly fallen light snow you can drive through or a solidly packed clod of plow trash) is the difference between backing up without issue and maybe losing a mudflap or getting stuck.
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