"fixed" CPO pricing, no wild speculation ?

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r11

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Totally missing on "fixed" dealer inventory, aka "new old stock", pricing, should not be stopping us from engaging in another wild speculation !

Say 50% off MSRP for under 20K miles ? 55% for 30K, 60% for 40K ?
 

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This is where it gets interesting. Obviously a dealer should price a used car at or around market value, agree? Well KBB values are artificially over-inflated at the moment, because some prankster has been buying these cars at top dollar.

But surely VW realizes this and will price them at an appropriate discount, no? Because nobody would ever over pay for a two-plus year old car, right?

Any crazy discounting pulls the rug out from under all "new" car buyers they just accommodated. I think it's in their interest to let these trickle out after the "new" inventory dries up, at high prices with great extended warranty coverage and financing, in an attempt to keep their bubble inflated.

Am I being too cynical?
 

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This is where it gets interesting. Obviously a dealer should price a used car at or around market value, agree? Well KBB values are artificially over-inflated at the moment, because some prankster has been buying these cars at top dollar.

But surely VW realizes this and will price them at an appropriate discount, no? Because nobody would ever over pay for a two-plus year old car, right?

Any crazy discounting pulls the rug out from under all "new" car buyers they just accommodated. I think it's in their interest to let these trickle out after the "new" inventory dries up, at high prices with great extended warranty coverage and financing, in an attempt to keep their bubble inflated.

Am I being too cynical?
Being one of those pranksters, I would say you're spot on.
 

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Oh, let me clarify that, it reads wrong.

VW is the "prankster" to whom I'm referring. It's the buyback that has reset the book value on these vehicles, due to private party and wholesale sales approaching near buyback pricing.

I don't think the "new" sales to consumers over the past few weeks have any effect on the used pricing -- plus it would be too early for KBB to reflect that data.
 

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Oh, let me clarify that, it reads wrong.

VW is the "prankster" to whom I'm referring. It's the buyback that has reset the book value on these vehicles, due to private party and wholesale sales approaching near buyback pricing.

I don't think the "new" sales to consumers over the past few weeks have any effect on the used pricing -- plus it would be too early for KBB to reflect that data.
Just another reason why I wouldn't even consider one of these 2015s.....
 

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Oh, let me clarify that, it reads wrong.
VW is the "prankster" to whom I'm referring. It's the buyback that has reset the book value on these vehicles, due to private party and wholesale sales approaching near buyback pricing.
I don't think the "new" sales to consumers over the past few weeks have any effect on the used pricing -- plus it would be too early for KBB to reflect that data.

KBB is on the move regarding 2015 Golf TDi DSG. Last month it went up to $24,220

Then dropped two times back to $24,025-ish
 

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Asking for no speculation on a topic for which the only possible answer will be speculative seems rather ... contradictive.

I've had enough of this. I'm locking this thread due to its pointlessness.
 
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