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Old December 19th, 2018, 17:21   #4666
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2nd row, non hybrid... I don't need/ want stow n go 2nd row but it appears to be standard... so far the 2014 Ody exl checks all my boxes except fuel economy. I just can't get around how they *only* get 19mpg in the city... As for the ChryCo hybrids, they just plain scare me. Plus the Pacifica interior colors, I mean come on, why the h3ll do they have tan door panels and roof liner but option black seats? I want black or gray seats and black or gray door panels and roof liner to match.
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Old December 20th, 2018, 03:48   #4667
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I like new technology or innovation but $80K for a standard electric car! It's too much for me. I guess I have to buy a $3000 obd2 scanner like Autel Maxisys Elite https://bestobd2scanners.com/autel/m...elite-reviews/ to find out car problems. So, Not only initial cost but also maintenance cost will increase!

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Old December 20th, 2018, 04:09   #4668
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I like new technology or innovation but $80K for a standard electric car! It's too much for me.


Take a good look at the Chevrolet Volt - 56 miles battery range and about 350 miles on the gas engine generator. Price $35K or less. Excellent lease terms available.
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Old December 20th, 2018, 16:28   #4669
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Take a good look at the Chevrolet Volt - 56 miles battery range and about 350 miles on the gas engine generator. Price $35K or less. Excellent lease terms available.
And manufacture stops at the end March 2019 along with the Cruze and all sedans except for the Malibu.
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Old December 21st, 2018, 13:21   #4670
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I really like the styling of all the Tesla models, I just can't stomach the price. Also car seats are gigantic now and my family requires 2, 1 rear facing 1 forward facing.

The Model 3's back seats are unfortunately not that great for car seats and forward facing boosters. A very short sighted design choice.


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Take a good look at the Chevrolet Volt - 56 miles battery range and about 350 miles on the gas engine generator. Price $35K or less. Excellent lease terms available.

My household has a Volt. While it's great in a lot of ways, in other ways it's still painfully "Chevy".
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Old December 21st, 2018, 14:49   #4671
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The Model 3's back seats are unfortunately not that great for car seats and forward facing boosters. A very short sighted design choice.
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Huh, the Model 3 got decent grades for car seat use here:

https://www.cars.com/articles/how-do...1420702765678/

Have you seen any video of Model 3 crash testing? It's very impressive.
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Old December 21st, 2018, 20:32   #4672
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Take another look at more of the car seat install reviews on that very site. You'll find the majority of vehicles get almost all "A"s.


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