Geordi
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Jan 4, 2002
- TDI
- 14 JSW DSG, 03 Wagon 01M, 400k and IPT performance auto!
2003 Jetta TDI sedan, sunroof and multifunction wheel issues. Original factory options not added later.
Still trying to solve this intermittent problem. The computer itself must be shutting the stuff off, because it works for a couple hours after resetting the battery (disconnect, touch contacts and leave for a bit) and without moving the car, everything stops working again after a while. When the CCM decides to be snotty, nothing responds of the windows, power mirrors, sunroof, wheel controls, and the radio randomly goes to safe mode (not always) but always fails to respond to the wheel buttons.
To date:
Tried disconnecting all doors and focusing on wheel / sunroof / radio as the only remaining CCM connected devices. No change. (doesn't work after some random amount of time <4 hours)
I have another wheel module (451) tried swapping that, but did not observe any difference. I cannot connect to the steering wheel in Vag-Com, should I be able to?
Replaced clockspring. Replaced wheel buttons and harness. Verified 5.5v on both ends of both canbus wires from cluster to CCM, so it doesn't seem to be a broken wire at least there.
Sourced a numbers-matching CCM from a boneyard 03 sedan with the same options (even the same color)... Did not observe a difference. Still didn't work.
Right now it has the original CCM still in it and swapped 377 and 451 modules. If I reset everything, it will all work fine for at least a couple hours, then stop working without moving the car or changing anything. This is very frustrating.
Here is the complete scan that I just did this last time, sometimes the error is company data bus FAILURE rather than just intermittent:
Friday,21,July,2017,20:40:31:03214
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: 3VWSP69M23M147304 License Plate: NY-3VW
Mileage: 425580km-264443mi Repair Order: Fix this effing car!
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Chassis Type: 9M (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
76
VIN: 3VWSP69M23M147304 Mileage: 425580km-264443miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-012-AGR.lbl
Part No: 038 906 012 GN
Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G400AG 4308
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 62C5AC52EE433F519F-4B18
3VWSP69M23M147304 VWZ7Z0B6209025
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01M-927-733.lbl
Part No: 01M 927 733 MK
Component: AG4 Getriebe 01M 5023
Coding: 00011
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 050F97CE1F2DA869DA-0962
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
Part No: 1C0 907 379 L
Component: ABS FRONT MK60 0101
Coding: 0004097
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 336B19165139E6D924-515A
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
Component: 04 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0001
Coding: 12340
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 2753FD46C5E19A7988-513C
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 1J0 920 906 M
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V64
Coding: 07232
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 32651C12FE23EFD12F-513C
3VWSP69M23M147304 VWZ7Z0B6209025
2 Faults Found:
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
49-00 - No Communications
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 70E1D61A30AF9DC119-513C
2 Faults Found:
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
49-00 - No Communications
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:54)--------------------------
Still trying to solve this intermittent problem. The computer itself must be shutting the stuff off, because it works for a couple hours after resetting the battery (disconnect, touch contacts and leave for a bit) and without moving the car, everything stops working again after a while. When the CCM decides to be snotty, nothing responds of the windows, power mirrors, sunroof, wheel controls, and the radio randomly goes to safe mode (not always) but always fails to respond to the wheel buttons.
To date:
Tried disconnecting all doors and focusing on wheel / sunroof / radio as the only remaining CCM connected devices. No change. (doesn't work after some random amount of time <4 hours)
I have another wheel module (451) tried swapping that, but did not observe any difference. I cannot connect to the steering wheel in Vag-Com, should I be able to?
Replaced clockspring. Replaced wheel buttons and harness. Verified 5.5v on both ends of both canbus wires from cluster to CCM, so it doesn't seem to be a broken wire at least there.
Sourced a numbers-matching CCM from a boneyard 03 sedan with the same options (even the same color)... Did not observe a difference. Still didn't work.
Right now it has the original CCM still in it and swapped 377 and 451 modules. If I reset everything, it will all work fine for at least a couple hours, then stop working without moving the car or changing anything. This is very frustrating.
Here is the complete scan that I just did this last time, sometimes the error is company data bus FAILURE rather than just intermittent:
Friday,21,July,2017,20:40:31:03214
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: 3VWSP69M23M147304 License Plate: NY-3VW
Mileage: 425580km-264443mi Repair Order: Fix this effing car!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chassis Type: 9M (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
76
VIN: 3VWSP69M23M147304 Mileage: 425580km-264443miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-012-AGR.lbl
Part No: 038 906 012 GN
Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G400AG 4308
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 62C5AC52EE433F519F-4B18
3VWSP69M23M147304 VWZ7Z0B6209025
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01M-927-733.lbl
Part No: 01M 927 733 MK
Component: AG4 Getriebe 01M 5023
Coding: 00011
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 050F97CE1F2DA869DA-0962
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
Part No: 1C0 907 379 L
Component: ABS FRONT MK60 0101
Coding: 0004097
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 336B19165139E6D924-515A
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
Component: 04 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0001
Coding: 12340
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 2753FD46C5E19A7988-513C
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 1J0 920 906 M
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V64
Coding: 07232
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 32651C12FE23EFD12F-513C
3VWSP69M23M147304 VWZ7Z0B6209025
2 Faults Found:
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
49-00 - No Communications
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 70E1D61A30AF9DC119-513C
2 Faults Found:
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
49-00 - No Communications
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:54)--------------------------