Chevy 50 MPG Diesel coming in 2013

christophercale · Jul 13, 2011

Check it out....

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011...to-bring-50-mpg-diesel-compact-to-us-in-2013/

Christopher

PeterV · Jul 13, 2011

It better not be a converted gasser.. like the old 350..

LiLredTDI · Jul 13, 2011

Very interesting article. I really liked the part about VW not being able to keep TDI's in stock and the authors opinion that to meet CAFE standards it will most likely take diesels to do it.

Maybe there is hope for the diesel yet. If diesel fuel would have stayed at a lower cost than gasoline the sell for more diesels would have been easier.

Joester · Jul 13, 2011

oh cool, only 25 years late, lol. I always love hearing commercials for "up to 35 highway MPG!" or whatever I just somehow want to let them know that my 10 year old car gets 45+ highway

supton · Jul 13, 2011

I'll believe it when I see it. How many years have we been hearing Subaru/Honda/etc will be bringing in diesel "next year or the year after"?

BretAZ · Jul 13, 2011

PeterV said:
It better not be a converted gasser.. like the old 350..

They are trying to get rid of left over Oldsmobile parts.

jsrmonster · Jul 13, 2011

First rant - I refuse to watch a youtube commercial as a lead in segment for a car advertisement. don't click on the link unless you have time to kill.

2nd rant - I hate companies that copy/mimmick other companies successful products/designs/aesthetics/features and business models. I bet it has 141hp. with 6speed auto. Damn, that looks like a V-Trouble-U.

3rd rant - Well, GM diesel sedan?? 50mpg (downhill, prevailing tailwind?? Imagine taking that into the dealer hehe. That will be a popular forum.

~;-#

kjclow · Jul 13, 2011

I have a hard time beleiving that they can get EPA approval for a 2013 model if this is the first news leak. I would much rather see them offer a 6 cyl diesel in the 1500 pickups and avalance. Take the standard 17-19 mpg and pop it up to about 30 with the diesel. That would also give them a much higher boost in cafe numbers.

MrMopar · Jul 13, 2011

PeterV said:
It better not be a converted gasser.. like the old 350..

Ugh . . . here comes the dilettantes out of the woodwork.

The LF9 Oldsmobile diesel was NEVER a converted gasoline engine. It is a completely different block..It isn't a gas engine with different heads or a gas engine sleeved, etc etc..There was no gas Oldsmobile engine sharing the same block. The Diesel block is specific to the diesel, it is a heftier, more solid block with stronger mains and a port in the valley for the injection pump adapter. The block is cast with a high nickle content.

n1das · Jul 13, 2011

DETROIT – The Chevrolet Cruze, the most popular car in the U.S. last month, will come in a diesel version that could boost gas mileage to around 50 mpg, two people briefed on General Motors Co. product plans said Monday.

GAS mileage, LOL. Maybe try DIESEL instead of gas?

Interesting article overall, and finally one that didn't remind people of the GM/Oldsmobile diesel disaster or other diesel cars from 30 years ago.

I liked the part about VW not being able to keep up with TDI demand in the USA. If nothing else, the situation caused another car manufacturer to take note of the demand and adjust their business plan(s) accordingly. Maybe it will help entice other manufacturers to offer their diesel cars here too.

IFRCFI · Jul 13, 2011

kjclow said:
I would much rather see them offer a 6 cyl diesel in the 1500 pickups and

We have enough trucks as passenger cars. Too many, in fact. We need more car engine choices.

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BeetleGo · Jul 13, 2011

IFRCFI said:
We have enough trucks as passenger cars. Too many, in fact. We need more car engine choices.

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Agreed!

TurbinePower · Jul 13, 2011

kjclow said:
I have a hard time beleiving that they can get EPA approval for a 2013 model if this is the first news leak. I would much rather see them offer a 6 cyl diesel in the 1500 pickups and avalance. Take the standard 17-19 mpg and pop it up to about 30 with the diesel. That would also give them a much higher boost in cafe numbers.

A diesel that was small enough to sling the heavy slugs that are "midsize" pickups these days into the 30mpg range would be decried as "dangerously slow" by the American public.

Not to mention I can already hear the other complaints... "Can't tow anything with a six cylinder." "Diesel's more expensive than gas!" "Pfft, it only has 200hp, worthless!"

kjclow · Jul 14, 2011

IFRCFI said:
We have enough trucks as passenger cars. Too many, in fact. We need more car engine choices.

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But I have my JSW and don't need another diesel car for many years. Hopefully

MrMopar · Jul 14, 2011

TurbinePower said:
"Can't tow anything with a six cylinder."

I constantly hear that from PowerJoke owners who can't admit Cummins makes a superior engine.

"6 cylinders for towing, 8 cylinders for showing . . ."

740GLE · Jul 14, 2011

an inline six can be the nicest engine around, I had a great one in my mid 80's F150, great one in my Volvo 960. And how many years did Jags have them as thier only option?

Lug_Nut · Jul 14, 2011

jsrmonster said:
2nd rant - I hate companies that copy/mimmick other companies successful products/designs/aesthetics/features and business models. I bet it has 141hp. with 6speed auto. Damn, that looks like a V-Trouble-U.

VW Beetle: Rear engined, swing arm suspension, air cooled, flat four. Available as two door and as van/truck. Sold by the millions
GM's idea? Corvair: Rear engined, swing arm suspension, air cooled, flat SIX! Available as sedan and as van/truck. Didn't sell too well, would have been dropped even earlier but GM didn't want Ralph to think he was right.

VW Rabbit: Transverse engined, watercooled four. Sold by the millions.
GM's idea? Citation: Transverse engined, watercooled SIX. Sold about as well as the Corvair, and Chevette, and Vega.

What's GM up to now? Look at at a used VW.

WVU TDI · Jul 14, 2011

Former Corvair owner signing in, '65 110hp 4-speed convertible, loved that car.

Carry on.

TurbinePower · Jul 14, 2011

MrMopar said:
I constantly hear that from PowerJoke owners who can't admit Cummins makes a superior engine.

"6 cylinders for towing, 8 cylinders for showing . . ."

Sorry, all my Cummins experience has shown that once they hit common rail they took a nosedive into the s**t can too. Leaky, noisy, turbo- and injector-eating whiny little sniveling wretches. Just like everyone else's engine when it's put into a severe service operation.

[edit] I hear the "can't tow without eight cylinders" mostly from the "350 fanboy" truck crowd. The kind of folks who think that the 350 was the greatest engine ever and should now be considered a minimum displacement for a proper car or truck engine.

Ski in NC · Jul 14, 2011

Just about every tractor/trailer rig on the highway is pulled by a straight six. Superior balance and simple plumbing.

Never understood why the pickup truck market abandoned the straight six. Other than engine was long and when they went to three foot dashboards the six would end up half under the windshield. Oh, wait.. now even the v-block engines are half under the windshield!!

BMW still makes sweet straight sixes.

Cat makes a nice marine twin-turbo 1100hp 18liter six.

My Cummins marine 8.3liter 450hp straight six is one of the nicest running engines I've ever been around.

Long live the straight six!!

farnhamassoc · Jul 14, 2011

christophercale said:
Check it out....

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011...to-bring-50-mpg-diesel-compact-to-us-in-2013/

Christopher

This GM car if it didnt have the giant bowitie is a great movement. It is already in Europe and doing well. Large in size and the turbo gas engine does 32-42 rated. I am guessing GM fudges a little on that. Would like to rent one. I know they know how to make a good A/C system unlike VW.
Cool Mike

German_1er_diesel · Jul 14, 2011

farnhamassoc said:
This GM car if it didnt have the giant bowitie is a great movement. It is already in Europe and doing well.

Define "Doing well". In Germany, the Cruze does sell in the 120-cars-per-month range. Which puts it at less than the Phaeton, or 0.6% or Golf sales.
Or one fifth of Porsche 911 sales.

TT71 · Jul 15, 2011

Love the idea. However as others have mentioned a <fill in the blank> will be offered with an optional diesel engine in < fill in #> years in the United States.
The car manufacturers can thank me for the template later.

TT71 · Jul 15, 2011

eliminated a double post

kjclow · Jul 15, 2011

Lug_Nut said:
VW Beetle: Rear engined, swing arm suspension, air cooled, flat four. Available as two door and as van/truck. Sold by the millions
GM's idea? Corvair: Rear engined, swing arm suspension, air cooled, flat SIX! Available as sedan and as van/truck. Didn't sell too well, would have been dropped even earlier but GM didn't want Ralph to think he was right.

VW Rabbit: Transverse engined, watercooled four. Sold by the millions.
GM's idea? Citation: Transverse engined, watercooled SIX. Sold about as well as the Corvair, and Chevette, and Vega.

Chrysler: Dodge Omni 4 door.

What's GM up to now? Look at at a used VW.

Added another copy cat

john.jackson9213 · Jul 15, 2011

My first new car was a 1969 Corvair Monza 110hp, 4 speed - drove it for 16 years. Lots of fun. Had several other Corvairs over the years also.

WVU TDI said:
Former Corvair owner signing in, '65 110hp 4-speed convertible, loved that car.

Carry on.

bozemanTDI · Jul 15, 2011

Review of diesel cruze (or its Australian cousin)

Link to a review of the Holden (australian chevy cruze) diesel. Interesting. From what I have read the Chevy Cruze is a pretty well engineered car and their 2 liter diesel seems like a well regarded engine (ps I love my tdi and sprinter)

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/50616/2010-holden-cruze-cdx-diesel-road-test-review

MrMopar · Jul 15, 2011

Ski in NC said:
Just about every tractor/trailer rig on the highway is pulled by a straight six. Superior balance and simple plumbing.

BMW still makes sweet straight sixes.

Long live the straight six!!

Fuel economy and CO2 regulations means BMW is abandoning straight 6 engines for turbo 4 cylinders. Don't know if they will completely quit on the straight 6, but they are switching to mostly 4 cylinders in the near future.

German_1er_diesel · Jul 15, 2011

BMW just replaced the N57 straight six in the 525d with a twin turbo N47S from the 123d. I'm not sure if that brings any advantage in real world driving.

El Dobro · Jul 15, 2011

Austin Mini: Transverse 4 cyl, water cooled, FWD.
VWs idea: Rabbit

From another former Corvair owner.

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