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tditom
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Follow the instructions on the bottle. It will be x oz. of additive for y gal. of fuel.
It is best to follow the instructions for any additive in order to obtain the benefits offered.
To answer your question: Every fuel up.
It is best to follow the instructions for any additive in order to obtain the benefits offered.
To answer your question: Every fuel up.
Lightflyer1
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It should be used every tank. Otherwise you may get a tank that needs it and not be in there.
Cogen Man
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Every fill.
Powder Hound
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I use Redline. Every tank.
ISurvivedNMU
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I have to be that guy... 
Most people do not use Diesel Kleen. I say this as I think most people do not use an additive.
Most people do not use Diesel Kleen. I say this as I think most people do not use an additive.
Marc_TDI
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Use it every fill-up....per the directions....rinse and repeat!
You're new here ...so WELCOME!...and go do some reading in the 101 section about your new TDi.
You'll find a lot of good info there, such as debate on lubricity agents for the HPFP (High Pressure Fuel Pump)
and many other great tips/suggestions/experiences.
I won't debate the issue, but instead suggest you make up your own mind 'to use or not to use' a fuel additive.
Happy driving!
You're new here ...so WELCOME!...and go do some reading in the 101 section about your new TDi.
You'll find a lot of good info there, such as debate on lubricity agents for the HPFP (High Pressure Fuel Pump)
and many other great tips/suggestions/experiences.
I won't debate the issue, but instead suggest you make up your own mind 'to use or not to use' a fuel additive.
Happy driving!
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Ol'Rattler
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A measured 4 onces for 12.5 gallons every fill up or it won't really be doing anything.
What it does is makes up somewhat for the poor quality Diesel available in this country. Opinions vary on this.
What it does is makes up somewhat for the poor quality Diesel available in this country. Opinions vary on this.
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Lightflyer1
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It isn't poor quality really it is inconsistent quality. The Infineum survey shows that most are way better than US regs require and even that Bosch stipulates to be used for longevity. Probably 95% of the fuel tested was below 400 HFRR. It is the other 5% that may damage your pump, and you never know where that 5% may show up. The percentages used are for example only but make sense. I haven't done the math on the results of the survey.
Ol'Rattler
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Same thing really. When it says on the pump, "May contain up to 5% Biodiesel", really means you have no idea how much Biodiesel was added so you have to assume 0% and use a lubricity additive.
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The Infineum study is statistically useless. Window dressing. A sample size of one means absolutely nothing, as there is nothing to compare it to. This study randomly chose a few dozen service stations in different regions of the country (a few dozen out of probably several hundred thousand), and tested the fuel at each location once. How exactly are we supposed to draw any meaningful conclusions from this? We can't.
It was merely a snapshot in time, nothing more, nothing less. You can't even conclude from this study if fuel on the east coast is any better or worse than fuel on the west coast.
The only thing it showed is the extreme variability in fuel quality/consistency, which most people here already suspected.
It was merely a snapshot in time, nothing more, nothing less. You can't even conclude from this study if fuel on the east coast is any better or worse than fuel on the west coast.
The only thing it showed is the extreme variability in fuel quality/consistency, which most people here already suspected.
Any debates on whether additives are best added before or after fueling?
Im thinking next time i add it before fueling up to allow for best mixing in the tank... and i had trouble adding it last time, the funnel wouldn't unlock the nozzle valve and i had to gently pour it in through the openings of the valve.
I mentioned I'm using the measuring cup and funnel, any other better ideas? this technique seems cheesy, especially when people look at me like *** is this guy doing!?!
Im thinking next time i add it before fueling up to allow for best mixing in the tank... and i had trouble adding it last time, the funnel wouldn't unlock the nozzle valve and i had to gently pour it in through the openings of the valve.
I mentioned I'm using the measuring cup and funnel, any other better ideas? this technique seems cheesy, especially when people look at me like *** is this guy doing!?!
DubFamily
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Best thing to do is pre-measure into smaller bottles and then just pour it in when you fuel up.
RNDDUDE
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^^^what he said...
Marc_TDI
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I use a funnel like this one available at most auto parts stores.
https://www.google.com/search?q=lon...sion%2F37837-dipstick-relocation.html;300;300
https://www.google.com/search?q=lon...sion%2F37837-dipstick-relocation.html;300;300
tditom
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^This^ is the correct way.
Thanks for all the responses, as this is all new, I was unaware of the "check" flaps that lock the valve in place, and would a larger funnel open the flaps? mine is a small funnel, or is it fine pouring into the openings of the valve?
ALSO, any ideas for the bottles? they sound much simpler, but am having trouble finding something feasible
ALSO, any ideas for the bottles? they sound much simpler, but am having trouble finding something feasible
tditom
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You could try these bottles:
http://www.carolina.com/catalog/det..._gl_products&gclid=CNCBxs-Tp8ACFStk7Aod3h0AJg
Couldn't you use that in conjunction with the truck fuel nozzle adapter that comes with the car?
tditom
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I'd ask the dealership for one. Here are some photos (ignore the text regarding "low sulfur diesel"):
http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Jetta_VI-Sportwagen-TDI/ES2079293/Notify/
http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Jetta_VI-Sportwagen-TDI/ES2079293/Notify/
The sales person who helped me re-assured me of hitting him up for anything i may need, perhaps I should send him a text as he said and ask about it?
Also, funny enough, maybe an owners manual too, as it came with the quick start guide and the carnet papers in the plastic bag, but i didn't see the big chunky manual?? LOL
Also, funny enough, maybe an owners manual too, as it came with the quick start guide and the carnet papers in the plastic bag, but i didn't see the big chunky manual?? LOL
tditom
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yeah, they owe you both owner's manual and the adapter.
murphyslaw
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I didn't get a first aid kit. I had to ask for the owners manual as it was not in the car. Didn't think to ask for the fueling adapter.
pparks1
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Mine happens after fueling. I quit carrying around the additive in the trunk, as it always made the car smell. Even inside of tupperware, inside of zip locks, etc. So, I fill up and add it when I get home.
I have little plastic bottles that I just squeeze and it shoots in easily around the misfiling guard. Either through the hole in the center or around the edges. I've never had to use anything to actually open the nozzle. Just pour it in, it will go in easily.
I mix it up at home and keep 3-4 bottles pre filled. Once I get back from the station, I just pour it in. Nobody sees or says anything. i just use a funnel and either bottles with marks on them for specific oz's or I use things like the STP Fuel System bottles that are about 6.5 oz. I put the STP into my wife's gas car, rinse out the bottle and let it sit for about a week before I use it.