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Old July 31st, 2019, 22:38   #1
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I'm not sure if this is the right section to ask about what tires to run on my 2013 MK6 but if it's not please excuse me I'm still getting to know this place.
I just picked up a Golf with 129k manual miles and it has mixed matched tires.
Lots of choices out there but wondered if you guys has some recommendations.
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Old July 31st, 2019, 23:08   #2
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Tire rack is the best for this. They will show what came OEM and what ever other brands will fit along with a lot of other info and reviews.

https://www.tirerack.com/content/tir.../homepage.html
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Old August 1st, 2019, 03:35   #3
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Just a couple suggestions (from someone who actually has installed countless sets of tires over the years and sees first hand how they do on all kinds of cars):

Stick with the OEM size/load/speed. This information will be on the tire placard on the car, either in the door jamb or on the inside of the fuel filler door.

Stay away from anything directional. They'll turn square, and you cannot cross rotate them to keep this from happening.

No one tire is going to provide everything to everyone. High treadwear numbers mean long lasting, but also mean a harder compound, which means less traction, especially when wet. Tires rated for "all seasons" will be mediocre in all seasons, because the tread pattern is a compromise. They won't be as good on dry, hot, summer roads as a "warm weather" tire, and won't be NEARLY as good in snow and ice and bitter cold as a "winter" tire. If you actually have a sizeable winter weather potential where you live, you may be better served with an extra set of wheels shod with winter tires.

Price is: you get what you pay for. Most of the el-cheapo no-name tires that are made in places like Taiwan, Indonesia, China (especially China), Philipines, Thailand, etc. are going to be garbage. The Korean brands are marginally better, but still vary from not good to worse.

These cars bend wheels easily. No idea how (mine don't), but I see Volkswagens with bent wheels in here every week. Don't assume the person installing your tires will know to look for this, let alone tell you. You can balance a new tire on a bent wheel, and it will balance out to zero... but it still is not round, and it'll still shake. And in many cases, a NEW tire may shake WORSE than the old tire, because the old tire may have worn itself uneven due to the bent wheel. This happens a LOT. I see people on this very site constantly describe this exact same thing. All it takes is someone to LOOK at the tire/wheel combo spinning on the balancer to see an 'out-of-round' situation. Most places, even "real" shops like ours, employ low level "tire buster" guys to do this work, and they often butcher this seemingly simple job up. I do not allow our guy to touch any Volkswagen wheels/tires if I can help it, I do them all personally. No mangled wheel bolts for me.

And above all else, keep the tires aired up and rotated properly.
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Old August 1st, 2019, 06:11   #4
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I've had great luck with LRR (Low Rolling Resistance) Yokohama Avid Ascend tires:
https://tires.tirerack.com/search?p=...ama%20type:all
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You must have REALLY low standards then.
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Old August 1st, 2019, 10:43   #6
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I have bought good cheap tires and bad cheap tires. I have also bought good expensive tires and bad expensive tires. Read the reviews at Tire Rack and decide what you want. Performance, all around, snow or something special. I prefer a very long lasting tire that is quiet and has good traction and LRR. Although the Continentals that have come on the new cars I have bought performed very well they were very short lived and expensive.

I would be looking for something like this, personally:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...RatingsReviews

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...7TCT&tab=Sizes

Excellent reviews both by Tire Rack and buyers, high UTQG rating and warranty 85k miles/6 years. Fairly priced. Should do excellent for normal driving. Now if you are a race driver or snow bound you probably want something different or two sets or different tires, as suggested above.
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What tire works well on a car also depends on the car. Lately I've been buying General Altimax RT43s for my MKIV cars, because they're pretty inexpensive and have been for me, on the VWs, a great tire. On the other hand, I bought two different sets of Continental tires for my BMW and both were awful: Rode poorly, loud, not sticky. Finally gave in and bought Michelin Primacy run flats. The difference was from night to day. Those tires suit that car. And I don't think I'd ever put anything but Michelins on a Mercedes.
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Old August 1st, 2019, 12:52   #8
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I would 100% agree with Oilhammer about sticking to OEM tire size, Load, and speed rating (you can go for something better than H, but not less). I had some bad tire experiances on my 2000 Beetle on not following Load and speed rating, and it bit me in the butt. Now - I stick to all 3 at all times.



My personal prefernce has settled to Firestone / Bridgestone All season, in stock size , speed, and load rating. I haven't lived where I would do Summer / winter tires, but if I lived where snow tires would be noticeably better - I would.
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It seems to be an adventure every time as they stop making the one I have if I liked them. Just have to choose another.
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Thank you everyone, this is very helpful and gives me something to work with.
The car came with some really cheep tires from Taiwan and I hear a little screech every time I stop, turn or drive.
Once I find the right tires I'll also get it aligned.
Thanks again.
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Old August 1st, 2019, 21:10   #11
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Tire rack is the best for this. They will show what came OEM and what ever other brands will fit along with a lot of other info and reviews.
https://www.tirerack.com/content/tir.../homepage.html
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Stay away from anything directional. They'll turn square, and you cannot cross rotate them to keep this from happening.
this this a million times this

I'd also avoid asymmetric tires, as with the low profile tires it's oftentimes worthwhile to flip them on the wheels inside out halfway through the tread life. So many times I see tires with the nubs still on them on the outside shoulder, but the inside shoulder totally bald.
People get all touchy when you ask them to put them on 'wrong' when it says "inside, outside" on the sidewalls.

ETA: and add me to the list of people that doesn't mind cheap tires within reason, uniroyals and the like are often derided without good cause, where 'changyanwangdangrongdong good tire company of lingzang' gets their deserved bad reputation. That one came off a honda civic, the name might not be anywhere near right, but it wrapped around 3/4 of the sidewall.

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Old August 8th, 2019, 22:34   #13
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I deal with tires daily and I agree with most of the comments on here.
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Big brands aren't all marketing cost. Some patterns I've seen, however not always the case, is that most big tire brands (eg. conti, michelin, bridgestone) just do a better job engineering there tires. They also seem to have less abnormal wear and noise issues down the road. That being said:
- Stay away from directional tires
- Stay away from V-tread designs. I seriously don't think I've ever had a v-tread tire that was quiet. Maybe when new, but not long after it was making noise
- Check the ratings/reviews
- stick to oem load/speed ratings.
- Get your tires road force balanced. Not all shops have this equipment. As oilhammer already stated. You can balance a triangle but that doesn't mean it will roll smoothly down the road. Road force balancing will help negate or eliminate most tire vibration issues.
-Possibly get two sets. If you do live somewhere with a sizeable winter. It's probably better to get two sets unless you're strapped for cash. All tires suck on ice/snow except winter tires.
I have these Continentals I purchased for my golf. I'm no racer and do a lot of highway miles and they wear excellent. They are also a really good deal ATM.
Continental TRUECONTACT 195/65R15


btw check the tire manufacture's websites for promotions. They run them several times a year and are usually $50-$100 off a set.
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Old August 9th, 2019, 02:51   #14
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You can bet that if you are only buying tires every few/several years they won't still be making the same ones you now have. It seems to be a trial by fire every time. Hit or miss no matter what you do.
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Old August 10th, 2019, 11:46   #15
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I've lived in Colorado for more than 45 years. I've driven on dry snow and wet heavy snow. The summers can get up into the high 90, so I'm sure the asphalt is pretty toasty. When I drove rear wheel drive cars I used Nokian Hakkapeliitta studded snows during the winter. I drove Michelins the rest of the year. A Miata with studded snows is a blast to drove in the snow. My front drive VWs have had Nokian WR G2s and G3s. This last winter I bought a set of General Altimax RT43s for my wife's Accord. She felt very confident driving in the snow with those tires. I am going to buy a set of those for my Golf next time I need new tires.
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