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VW MKIII-A3/B4 TDIs This is a discussion about MKIII-A3/MkIII Jetta/Golf (<99.5) and B4 Passats (96,97) TDI's. Non TDI related postings will be moved or removed.

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Old November 17th, 2010, 09:00   #1
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Is there a way to tell whether a clutch problem is related to the clutch parts themselves or the hydraulic sytem....master and slave cyls? My clutch does not want to disengage......I changed out the slave but still no different. When bleeding the system there seemed to be a good solid stream of fluid coming from the bleeder so I'm thinking the master cyl is OK. Would bad/worn clutch parts cause the clutch to remain engaged? I was always under the impression that the clutch would begin to slip when worn out. The car has about 210,000 miles on original clutch. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 09:32   #2
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The spring in the clutch disk fails and wedges itself between the PP and the flywheel...
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Old November 17th, 2010, 09:46   #3
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The car has about 210,000 miles on original clutch. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Put in a new clutch, you have had your moneis worth!

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Old November 17th, 2010, 09:52   #4
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Actually that one above had 176K on it and the material itself would have had a lot left.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 13:29   #5
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Actually that one above had 176K on it and the material itself would have had a lot left.

I am sure it did but no springs will hold out that long. If nothing else it will save you having to wear a lead foot to change gear.
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Old November 24th, 2010, 17:10   #6
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Just did my clutch after 220,000 miles. Springs were loose in disc and wearing into surrounding metal.
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Old March 10th, 2011, 10:53   #7
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FOLLOW UP....I changed out the clutch parts and the springs were broken like the ones pictured above (jollygreengiant's post). Thanks guys.
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Old March 11th, 2011, 16:13   #9
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My clutch was done at 112k because I had the trans out. The clutch material on the new and old measured the same. But the springs were shot.
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Old March 12th, 2011, 00:58   #10
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That's how mine went, too, at 200k miles--the spring popped out and wedged itself between the clutch and PP.
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Old March 16th, 2011, 11:33   #11
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when your clutches went out in this way, how did the clutch pedal feel? The same? Different? I am having the same symptoms but my pedal feels completely different now, as if there is air in the lines.
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Old March 16th, 2011, 20:02   #13
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This clutch failure modes symptoms are that the clutch works perfect all the way up till you simply can't disengage it. I was able to temporarily disengage the one above but it went right back.
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Old March 17th, 2011, 18:03   #14
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Mine worked perfectly right up until the stopped disengaging, but now that it won't disengage, the pedal feels like there is nothing until right before the floor.
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Old March 17th, 2011, 18:12   #15
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At 232k my clutch was still fine just wouldn't hold the power of the vnt 17/22. As soon as it would hit full boost it would slip just a bit. The clutch in these cars is very good
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