tdi90hp
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Exactly. Can we make this into a banner and stick it up on the top of the CR forums? It would save time and bandwidth.
agreed....moderator?
Exactly. Can we make this into a banner and stick it up on the top of the CR forums? It would save time and bandwidth.
Relax Francis!agreed....moderator?
You would still contaminate the injector lines, rail, and injectors. The only thing it would might eliminate was buying a new fuel tank and lines.Another thought from an engineering point of view. ( I am not an engineer!) But when the HPFP fails it is my understanding it is the return fuel or excess from this pump being returned to the tank w/ metal from the pump as it fails that contaminates the whole system correct?? So tank, to two pumps, to fuel filter, to hpdp, to fuel rail to injectors?? With a return feed at HPFP to tank?? If this is correct then adding another filter or screening on the return line could prevent contaminating the entire system! Then when the pump fails you only have to flush from this filter to the HPFP and then ONLY replace the pump! This seems very logical to me and would keep the cost down considerably in the event of a failure. This is a cheap preventive measure or insurance for owners out of warranty to combat a 4-8K fix of a 1000 dollar part.
What say the diesel mechanics and TDI gurus????? Logical? doable?? Easy?? Is the return line lower pressure??
This was discussed quite a bit in the HPFP failure thread. A lot of conceptual design ideas came out but no working filter system IIRC.I'm still going to look into a secondary fuel filter to prevent contamination of the entire system in the event of a failure.
I hear ya and agree. There are alot of if's here. He even said I can't write that down for you but VW has covered all of them for him. It will calm me down for a while but will be interested to see the Mazda. I love this JSW for safety, quality and interior quality and materials. When I get in the Jap cars they are pretty cheap inside. I really can't understand why VW can't just extend the warranty as this is really going to hurt return customers and the value of the car. This happened to BMW w/ the E65 745 and 750's. There are so many expensive issues w/ the car that they sell for pennies now and no one wants them.VW doesn't always cover. And you can't prove which gas station you used had gasoline in the tank if it had small amounts that didn't kill your vehicle immediately. Also comprehensive insurance doesn't always cover this failure.
There's a lot of IFs and MAYBEs in this.
If VW wanted to stand behind their produce AND they're covering most failures, it would make most sense to just offer a limited lifetime warranty, or extend HPFP warranty to 100k miles. At least it would look like VW cares for their customers.
They aren't doing it. And I see many issues from the past where VW has shrugged their shoulders at vehicle failures.
Mazda on the other hand has stepped up and extended customer warranties for past issues (I owned a first gen RX-8 that had the warranty increased to 100k miles). I hear BMW has done the same.
Taking a loss at roughly half the cost of a HPFP failure to get into a Mazda CX-5 or Mazda6 Diesel with a brand new 2014 MY and full warranty seems like a no brainer to me. Better FE and higher power to boot.
I mentioned this to him today that I was exploring it. He said he felt that if this were cheaply and easily done to prevent such a large fix VW would be sending it in a repair kit. I don't agree because then VW would be admitting a problem and have to do it on thousands of cars at a greater expense. I still think case by case basis is still cheaper for them. This should be a recall or extended warranty at the least!This was discussed quite a bit in the HPFP failure thread. A lot of conceptual design ideas came out but no working filter system IIRC.
Well, that's not really good news for all the 09 thru 2012 tdi owners. Diesels have traditionally held their value and brought top dollar in the used car market. Of course the VW CR isn't a traditional diesel.Well when I bought my 2010 JSW there was a waiting list in Florida where I bought it, of 100 people. Picked up my car today from service and there no less than 4 sportwagon diesels out front w/ 3000 off sticker on the window!!
The tide is turning, and this issue may be getting noticed by the masses. All you have to do is google Jetta sportwagon TDI and you will find the issue.
Look no further than diesel prices. Some parts of the US have a $1.00 spread with RUG. That's all the average, shallow car buyer sees typically.Economy could be playing into it
TDI resale is still very high and people have been rooting for a major news story for the year I have owned mine and none have been forthcoming.Well, that's not really good news for all the 09 thru 2012 tdi owners. Diesels have traditionally held their value and brought top dollar in the used car market. Of course the VW CR isn't a traditional diesel.
Once this problem hits a social media site,it will spread like wildfire.
VW will just continue to plod along and fix failures as they come along up to a certain point and then owners will be on their own.
A few of us are already running a filter on the return fuel line, PM member 2micron, he has a kit already put together, I've had it on my car for around 15k miles already.As of now I am very concerned but in adding up the numbers my money is already spent and my pump is working. There was debris in my filter housing cleaned it out not sure if it was metal. Being that I love the car and the money is spent I am looking into a filter after the HPFP so if and when it goes it will prevent contaminating the entire system cutting the cost of the repair cost in half. So that would save the tank, labor and two other fuel pumps and the filter housing. The rail, injectors and HPFP would be garbage. Not being too biased I don't think there is another car in the JSW category. Very safe, fast and peppy, great mileage, handles well, nice interior. All others are cheap, economy cars that I just don't feel safe about putting my family in. That leaves jumping up to a mid size car. And of course more money and less economy. So I may be taking the gamble w/ a new in line filter to offset the cost as that is feeling a little better than 8K. I will also being keeping receipts and talking to my insurance agent regarding the liability of being damaged by a fuel station!
Sorry seamus,I did, thank you! 2Micron where are you???????? sent you a PM!! LOL
I am running his kit also. I don't think VWoA will ever honor a warrantee with me again, so if/when the HPFP fails, I would prefer to minimize the costs for me to fix her up.A few of us are already running a filter on the return fuel line, PM member 2micron, he has a kit already put together, I've had it on my car for around 15k miles already.