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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old March 8th, 2017, 19:29   #1
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Default 2015 NMS opinions on fix or sell?

I have a 2015 NMS TDI SE manual, stock, 31k mi. Bought in Apr 2015 new, $25K OTD, cash. My buyout price is $27-28K (buy + restitution). My restitution for fix is ~$7.2k.

I bought the car for the room/economy. I'm 6'6" and have 12 & 14 yr old kids growing to match.

I have a ding in the passenger front quarter panel...about a 3x3" crunch on the wheel well that a kind hit-run lady gave me while parked the week I bought the car. I saw the lady shifty-eyed and quickly pull away, but didn't 'catch' her in the act and didn't fully understand what had happened until it was too late. I had a $700 estimate to fix the ding, but never did it, and I never made a claim.

I had been planning to keep the car until 2018, sell back, and buy used same model for about $11-15k, sans the ding and drive on until my kids are out of the house.

But...I'm starting to consider the fix...I KNOW how the car has been driven - I'm the only driver. I KNOW I've added Power Stroke Silver EVERY tank since new. The reasons I got the big car still stand.

What are your thoughts for my situation...keep the car for the long haul with ding and get 7K restitution, or sell it back and *hope* I can find a replacement on the cheap.

I am not financially strapped...and am starting to think that getting the car for $18K is a pretty good deal, and that the $3-5K I *might* be able to capture by trading is a fool's folly.

Your thoughts? I really want Oilhammer's thoughts on the wisdom of keeping an ea288 fixed orphan for the long haul (likely just ~200k mi, realistically).

My commute has recently changed from 22 miles/day to ~68 miles/day, but this might change again.

Thanks for your collective wisdom.

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Old March 8th, 2017, 20:19   #2
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FWIW I kept mine. The extra warranty made it a deal for me. You could fix the damage with the restitution money
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Old March 8th, 2017, 20:35   #3
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Thanks, Funguy. I'm aware your post and am taking it into consideration. Also...I don't (much) mind the "ding" and can afford fixing it, and realize that the ding-fix is just 10% the restitution. The things that are giving me pause are 1) VW might not sell the fixed 2015s. 2) I might not be able to fine a suitable 6MT 3)VW financial situation might change if I hold out for a sell 4) I like my current car for room/economy and a suitable replacement may not be available

Which...is to your point...that the fix made sense for you, and might make sense for me. I was probing opinions that may argue the orphan status ea288 is unknown....

My reply may sound critical, but is not intended to be personal...I really appreciated your early fix report, and it started to shift my thinking! Thanks.

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Old March 8th, 2017, 21:02   #4
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No offense at all. Hope you can work it out to your comfort level. I was thinking of buying a returned (or never sold) '15 also. The 6MT I think will be hard to find. I have considered that VW could go belly up before I sell back my wife's '13 sportwagen. They seem to be ok for now.

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Old March 8th, 2017, 21:08   #5
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are buybacks out for sale yet?
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Old March 8th, 2017, 21:23   #6
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I was about to say no until I checked online and I see about 700 2015 Passats nation wide. None look cheap though. Here is a 6 speed MT for 24K
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...7190/overview/ These are new not buyback. Lot of manual tranny's. I am surprised they don't lower the prices more. The cars are 2+ years old.

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Old March 9th, 2017, 08:09   #7
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But if you go to the sellers web site (Fox Valley Volkswagen) and look at their inventory, the listed 2015 Passat TDI is not listed. I have done this with several other 3rd party web listings and when I go to the actual dealers web site, the listed vehicle is never there. Not sure if these adds are old or what. All I know they are not for sale until the fix has been performed. Will they be able to sell them after the first half fix is completed, don't know, but I wouldn't think so. Just my opinion.
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Old March 9th, 2017, 09:31   #8
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If I had a 2015, I would fix it, drive it for a while, then sell it if I decided I wanted something different. I think 2015s will have very good resale value, especially with the extended warranty that is offered as a part of the settlement/fix.
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Old March 13th, 2017, 09:56   #9
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Finding a similar sized replacement with the same range and mpgs in the mid 40s will be tough if not impossible. There is something to be said for going 700-800 miles between fill-ups. I've upgraded the suspension and brakes and I'm in it for the long haul (300+K miles?).
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Old March 13th, 2017, 14:09   #10
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My advice is wait. If you really want to replace yours, I would wait until you see how much the fixed ones are selling for. You have lots of time to find the right one for the right price.
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the 2018 GMC Terrain and chevy equinox will be the first AWD 40MPG SUV sporting a tiny 1.6L diesel
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I had been planning to keep the car until 2018, sell back, and buy used same model for about $11-15k, sans the ding and drive on until my kids are out of the house.
This plan sounds nice, but I don't think you're going to find a "used but similar" for $11-15k. Unless you mean a gasser. My guess is that these are going to be very rare and hard to come by. Most people are taking the buyback and those who take the fix are likely to hold onto them for at least a few years. This bums me out since I was hoping to score a late model Passat or Golf, but I just gave up.

Dieselgate sucks.
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This plan sounds nice, but I don't think you're going to find a "used but similar" for $11-15k. Unless you mean a gasser. My guess is that these are going to be very rare and hard to come by. Most people are taking the buyback...
Dieselgate sucks.
I was hoping that VW would start fixing/selling gen 3 buybacks ASAP. I figured they would sell for cheap due to dieselgate stigma and being 3 years old with 30-60k. VW would have a good incentive to fix/resell the buybacks quickly before they depreciate further with age which would help reduce overall dieselgate cost to VW. And this would even help VW get the 85% turned in quickly...It would incentivize like minded folks who like the brand to "sell high, buy low"...and would thus give vw extra goodwill, while helping to "legendize" the TDI brand by keeping them on the road in higher numbers.
Thanks all for the good advice/discussion.
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Since VW has decided to abandon diesels in the U.S. you will need to plan on driving it forever if you keep it. The used market will be limited to TDI enthusiasts (which will be small unless gas goes to $5 a gallon). Without advertising and support from VW most will avoid TDIs.
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we are already back up to $3 per gallon, looking forward to the new 40 MPG GMC terrain SUV diesel. I have also thought of buying a Leaf, with its short range id be parking it halfway between home and work, drive the leaf the first 30 miles then jump in my Passat that I stash at a friends house to complete my commute. Ahhh the price I pay for living 55 miles away from the urban jungle
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