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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old January 2nd, 2017, 09:18   #16
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VW dealers don't routinely replace the water pump and idlers when they do a timing belt.
Why do that when they can do each separately for more $$.
The main reason to sell a Dub is the revenue stream from the sale in the shop.
Vw counts in the revenue stream from parts sales as well.
You must have some shady dealers down there .
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 11:21   #17
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My 2012 Passat TDI SEL also has a water pump leak with only 51k on the odometer. The sad point in was covered on the 5 yr. 60k warranty but I missed it by one month. This issue is one of many that have cost me big since the 3/36k warranty expired and have come to one conclusion. Sell your VW BEFORE the warranty expires. I have also decided to sell my well maintained Passat back to VW so I may purchase another vehicle brand that is more dependable. I advised VW that I will never buy another vehicle from them since they will not provide assistance with the water pump. Pry to owning the VW I owned a Toyota Camry V6 XLE with zero (0) problems and 81K when I said good bye. I admit it......I F'ed up buy a VW, shame on me and was sold on Clean Diesel with great MPG. The most expensive cost per mile ever. VW Sucks!
You must have done no research before buying whatsoever. If you want a car that you never have to open the hood, you may want to avoid German. Or, anything turbocharged. Sorry you had a bad experience. The following was edited for the weak and frail readers among us. Here's a helpful link that may help you on your quest: Google Search Tailored just for you.

Happy new year. Peace and love. Cheap repair bills, and spiritless driving awaits you.
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 12:26   #18
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Such a warm, welcoming community this has become
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 07:36   #19
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Lol, had to double check the URL to make sure I wasnt on vortex, but I do agree with both- driven vw's since I got my license and the NMS is a eye opener for sure- Granted I expected to work on it a lot as during the test drive I joked about how long the stock exhaust system would stay on it. Sure my old 1.6D had its gremlins as well as the ALH EGR issues but nothing compared to the nms.
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 07:51   #20
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Go back to Toyota and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
Happy new year.
Comments like this give the forum a bad name. You can wish someone well without that.
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 15:41   #21
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Comments like this give the forum a bad name. You can wish someone well without that.
You're probably right. On the other hand, I had just had about enough of him spewing his hatred, as this was about the 5 or 6th post I'd seen from him on the subject. Seems it's more about a smear than about doing what's right for himself.
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 16:21   #22
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You must have done no research before buying whatsoever. If you want a car that you never have to open the hood, you may want to avoid German. Or, anything turbocharged. Sorry you had a bad experience. The following was edited for the weak and frail readers among us. Here's a helpful link that may help you on your quest: Google Search Tailored just for you.

Happy new year. Peace and love. Cheap repair bills, and spiritless driving awaits you.
So...you think this edit is any less offensive???
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 16:38   #23
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So...you think this edit is any less offensive???
Just removed the cuss word is all. Not here to appease the guy or his apologists. Sorry, not sorry.
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 19:30   #24
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Yes VW is not for the weak. It's great for those that enjoy working on their car.
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Old January 4th, 2017, 09:30   #25
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A water pump is part of the timing belt change. The pump should be changed each time the belt is. Though I understand some dealers change just the belt. Which in my opinion borders on malpractice. Everything the belt touches that moves rollers, pump ,tensioner etc should all be included in a belt change.

Not according to my local dealer, they do TB jobs for about $700 and keep their customers happy.

Only until they realize the job was half done
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You must have some shady dealers down there .

Same up here in New England
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Old January 4th, 2017, 16:35   #27
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Sucks to hear about dealers like that. Any estimate that comes across my desk gets filled out to my best ability. Some even say I over quote on the small items but in the end it is the small items that can keep the job from being finished on time.

Where has customer service gone these days??
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Old January 7th, 2017, 04:11   #28
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54,500 and the water pump went out on mine.......
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Old February 3rd, 2017, 07:08   #29
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Lost my first at 74k. Blew the second one today, in spectacular fashion, at 140k. Effing buyback appointment is in 3 weeks.

But the good news is I did the last one (and the timing belt). Probably get it done in 2 hours or so. Already have a pump on the way. $70 on Amazon and next day shipping for $10.
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Old February 3rd, 2017, 09:21   #30
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Not according to my local dealer, they do TB jobs for about $700 and keep their customers happy.
Only until they realize the job was half done
And, if they spelled it out for the owner and they declined, then that's on the owner, not the repair shop. We had to get a bunch of hoses replaced on our '04 SAAB, because one was leaking but they were all just....old. When I told them go to ahead with the job, he service writer (an indy shop) said "OK, looks like you've got the original thermostat in there, it'll be $18 for the part, no more labor to do it while we're doing the hoses, because the labor to do that part is the same." It's a no-brainer, something anyone with a grain of sense would do, but there are probably shops that wouldn't bother to say "Hey, you really need to put in a new water pump and these other parts when you're doing that timing belt."
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