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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old April 25th, 2013, 11:13   #16
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Wonder if this would work on the JSW to have the 110v outlet always hot? Be great for camping trips when you need to charge things.
It might. Does your JSW have two fuses where the OP's (and my) car only have one? The relay powers that entire row of fuses.

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Old April 25th, 2013, 13:35   #17
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In testing this circuit there are no other components on it. This is a single relay and single fuse (30A) circuit. The only things on this circuit are the tow outlets.

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Awesome, thank you for posting it.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 16:10   #18
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You can do the same thing by crimping two spade connectors on a short piece of wire 10 or 12 gauge minimum.

Pull relay,

insert jumper in appropriate sockets where relay used to be

Now power full time with no kluge and taking apart relay.

Takes 5 minutes total.
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Old April 27th, 2013, 00:43   #19
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You can do the same thing by crimping two spade connectors on a short piece of wire 10 or 12 gauge minimum.

Pull relay,

insert jumper in appropriate sockets where relay used to be

Now power full time with no kluge and taking apart relay.

Takes 5 minutes total.
Exactly what I was thinking. Just need to determine which 2 terminals activate the coil and which 2 are the contacts.
I never have understood the practice of switching off the lighter socket on imports.
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Old April 27th, 2013, 16:07   #20
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Man I did this mod and I love it. I wish they came from the factory like this.
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Old April 27th, 2013, 17:31   #21
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Exactly what I was thinking. Just need to determine which 2 terminals activate the coil and which 2 are the contacts.
I never have understood the practice of switching off the lighter socket on imports.
I absolutely love the 12v plugs being switched! Having a dash cam that turns it self on and off without having to unplug and replug everytime is heaven.

my chebbie cars I had to install a switched relay, they are 12v constant, it was a royal pita with the radar detectors, usb car chargers, ect.

the only reason i've want'ed a 12v constant is what you guys have pointed out already, to charge the phone while away inside a store.

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Old April 28th, 2013, 05:58   #22
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Back in the day, maybe an occasional 12V car vac with crappy suction or compressor for tire inflation might be found in the trunks of cars. Cigarette lighters on many cars would work with the ignition off and no one would run down their battery. Now we can power laptops, phones, GPS units, hot plates, wire aftermarket radios, portable DVD players, car seat heaters, 12V impact wrenches for lug nuts, coffee pots, little frying pans, curling irons and yes the list goes on.

My point is simply this: Too many people would run their battery down by forgetting to unplug.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 08:48   #23
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My point is simply this: Too many people would run their battery down by forgetting to unplug.
What you are saying is true, but those people would learn it quickly not to leave the gadgets connected, after a couple no start due to dead battery. Failure to learn would simply requier to keep a jumber cable and/or a portable jumper box in the trunk.
Can't really blame the manufacturer for one's own stupidity.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 10:34   #24
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My dodge caravan has the best of both worlds. It has two plugs on the dask, one is switched and one is not. I'm going to make the same mod on my Jetta by using an add a circuit in the fuse box to an extra socket in the cubby ahead of the shifter.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 13:27   #25
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... It has two plugs on the dask, one is switched and one is not. I'm going to make the same mod on my Jetta by using an add a circuit in the fuse box to an extra socket in the cubby ahead of the shifter.
This was my solution as well

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Old April 30th, 2013, 11:21   #26
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And now that you have this "always on" lighter socket, consider investing ~$12 into a solar charger : http://www.harborfreight.com/15-watt...ger-68692.html - 20% (google the coupon, Amazon also sells these ). This will always keep your battery topped off - great for when you don't drive your car for a while.
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Good mod my man. I am going to go with the spade connectors and wire route but way to experiment and figure this out
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Old September 16th, 2013, 20:46   #28
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You can do the same thing by crimping two spade connectors on a short piece of wire 10 or 12 gauge minimum.

Pull relay,

insert jumper in appropriate sockets where relay used to be

Now power full time with no kluge and taking apart relay.

Takes 5 minutes total.

This does seem like the eaiser route. It's the way I would like to go. There are 4 connectors total on the relay, which two need to be connected in order for this mod to work?
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Old September 16th, 2013, 23:56   #29
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This does seem like the eaiser route. It's the way I would like to go. There are 4 connectors total on the relay, which two need to be connected in order for this mod to work?
if you look at post #1, its the 2 legs that are perpendicular to each other, where the case is being pried off. Looks like they are labeled 3 and 5. Officially, the schematic shows them as 75 and 30a on the relay base with male spade connectors. They're the bigger tabs to carry the current. 30a is the 12V hot from fuse SB24 (50A in under hood fuse box). The other 2 legs (smaller than the power legs) are labeled 85 (power to relay coil) and 31 (ground).
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if you look at post #1, its the 2 legs that are perpendicular to each other, where the case is being pried off. Looks like they are labeled 3 and 5. Officially, the schematic shows them as 75 and 30a on the relay base with male spade connectors. They're the bigger tabs to carry the current. 30a is the 12V hot from fuse SB24 (50A in under hood fuse box). The other 2 legs (smaller than the power legs) are labeled 85 (power to relay coil) and 31 (ground).
Thank you very much for the detailed answer. I'm sure that others will find this helpful as well.
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