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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old November 1st, 2011, 12:22   #31
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4 and 5 have a .87 and .86 ratio respectively, but the final drops from 3.68 to 2.92 so it is a significant gear change. The tdi is already one of the lowest geared cars on the market (talking manual). I dont think it needs another gear unless you want one for 70 mph plus. Find another manual that only spins 1600 rpm at 60 mph.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 12:25   #32
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according to VW.com the passat has different final drives than the jsw and golf, maybe you guys do need a 7th gear or the golf's final drive ratios (3.45 and 2.76) same gear ratios tho.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 16:27   #33
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4 and 5 have a .87 and .86 ratio respectively, but the final drops from 3.68 to 2.92 so it is a significant gear change. The tdi is already one of the lowest geared cars on the market (talking manual). I dont think it needs another gear unless you want one for 70 mph plus. Find another manual that only spins 1600 rpm at 60 mph.

*find one that's under 6.2L V8
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 20:36   #34
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I filled up today, 14.7 gallons @ 670 miles 45.58mpg...mfd read 45.5mpg. I tried to get as much fuel down the tube as possible, I believe I put approx .5 gallon more than my first attempt as I waited 15 seconds between backflow nozzle pops.(about 7 in total, people waiting so I quit) and noticed my gauge was right on the last tick. I still think I've only got 16.5 gallons in the tank right now as I was right down to the warning zone before filling up. Knowing that the mfd is accurate I can say that I've been getting 46-51 mpg on my daily commutes which is amazing considering I was averaging 39-43 mpg on the same route with the 2011 TDI DSG Golf. My commute includes city, stop and go, traffic lights(0-70 & 70-0 about 5 of these lights and each one I hit takes 1+mpg off the mfd) and highway, about 50 miles total each way, 50% highway, the rest mixed. Now you see why the commutes vary from 46-51mpg. This car gets great highway mileage, much better than the DSG Golf, it is also slower than the Golf, still a blast to drive, but the Golf is a sportier ride. I wouldn't trade cars that is for sure, I love the Passsat and the manual is fantastic, just a beautiful driving stick.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 21:22   #35
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My first week with the vehicle. I'm averaging about 47MPG in mixed town / county highway driving. Best commute was 50MPG. Worst was 43 MPG driving like a lead foot on purpose adn peeling away from stop lights. I wanted to see how much babying the gas pedal pays off. It's pretty forgiving. I basically get 47MPG when I don't pay attention to "driving for fuel economy."
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Old November 8th, 2011, 14:03   #36
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this is such great news, now lets see how the fuel system holds up!
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Old November 9th, 2011, 17:29   #37
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2nd fill up today.....576 miles / 12.37 gal = 46.56 mpg......pretty darn good mileage considering the mixed driving involved. My wife took the car today for a 120 mile business trip, city with country roads(lots of 55-60mph) she averaged 51mpg. I don't baby the car but I do take advantage of opportunities to increase mpg.
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Old November 9th, 2011, 18:37   #38
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I am happy as well with my mileage. Mine is a DSG granted but I started on a road trip from Asheville to Atlanta on Sunday evening and part way in I had my passenger snap this photo. I only had a few miles on the tank as you can see by the trip odo. On the open highway it is truly amazing.





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Old November 10th, 2011, 16:27   #39
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anyone know the weight difference MT vs DSG? If there is a big enough difference, that could contribute to the higher MPG on Manual.
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Old November 10th, 2011, 17:55   #40
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anyone know the weight difference MT vs DSG? If there is a big enough difference, that could contribute to the higher MPG on Manual.
VW says the 6MT weighs 3360 lb while the DSG weighs 3396 lb. Remember that the DSG is bundled with the sunroof which adds a little weight as well. I think the difference in highway MPG is mostly due to the taller overall gearing in 6th with the manual.
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Old November 12th, 2011, 20:32   #41
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I am happy as well with my mileage. Mine is a DSG granted but I started on a road trip from Asheville to Atlanta on Sunday evening and part way in I had my passenger snap this photo. I only had a few miles on the tank as you can see by the trip odo. On the open highway it is truly amazing.





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Old November 13th, 2011, 21:41   #42
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you think doing 1600-1700rpms at 70mph would be better for the engine? I'm guessing VW picked the gearing to match a 65-70mph speed with optimum boost, EGR, and DPF emissions stuffs. If you go any much lower in engine speed I'd say they'd each take a hit in efficiency
A 7th gear is simply needed so you can travel faster at the current 6th gear cruising rpm. I am sure some one will need that extra gear very much.
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Old November 14th, 2011, 10:38   #43
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It may not do much if you had it. Air resistance goes up quickly as the speed increases.
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Old November 14th, 2011, 11:26   #44
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And no station wagon planned for the foreseeable future (no Touran TDI planned either). How sad ...
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Old November 14th, 2011, 12:42   #45
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And no station wagon planned for the foreseeable future (no Touran TDI planned either). How sad ...
I think you posted in the wrong thread. This is a thread discussing what the Passat is. The thread for complaining about what the Passat is not is this-a-way:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=328542

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