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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old October 27th, 2011, 04:50   #16
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Only through about 1/2 a tank right now and haven't confirmed mpg via old fashioned hand calculations...But, it looks like this 6 speed manual Passat is going to crush the TDI DSG Golf in fuel efficiency, at this point based solely on the MFD and computers reporting on approx mileage to empty I'm averaging 45+mpg in combined driving, if the MFD is accurate the Passat is amazing on the highway, I think with a little care I could hit 50 mpg driving 65-70mph, matter of fact I've been averaging 47-48mpg on my daily commute which includes city/stop and go/bumper to bumper/highway cruising at 65-70+ when possible, and break-in driving. I know this route very well and I'm seeing 5-10 mpg+ with the Passat on certain highway stretches.The MFD on my Golf was always dead-on accurate so I'm hoping this one is too. This car is a highway machine, there is no way you could only get 43mpg like the EPA states, heck it will get 43mpg going up a slight grade at 70mph
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Old October 27th, 2011, 06:15   #17
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I concur that on the highway, the 6MT rocks. 1950 rpm at 70 with a slippery 0.29 coefficient of drag. When I get some free time (ha!), I'll do some logging of the steady state fuel consumption at different speeds in both directions (to minimize wind and elevation change effects). Even driving 100% city stop and go, never going faster than 40 or so, mine is slightly over 30 mpg.
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Old October 27th, 2011, 06:59   #18
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Just took delivery a week ago of a 2012 Passat Highline TDI with 6-speed, nav system and sport package (i.e. 235/45 R18 tires). Drove to Toronto and back on the 401 & Hwy 2. Key trip stats: 582km to and from Toronto, driving at 110 - 130 as needed; 29.4 litres to fill up on return; 5.05l/100km total, which pleased us no end. Delighted with the power and quiet comfort as well as with the thriftiness of the new Passat. Wish the leather sport seats were a bit more Audi-like, but then I didn't spring for the Audi. Very satisfied to date.
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Old October 27th, 2011, 07:05   #19
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Should have added that 5.05 l/100km equals 46.58 MPG US or 55.94 MPG CDN. This seems about standard for what others are reporting - but very agreeable nevertheless.
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Old October 27th, 2011, 07:30   #20
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Very nice! And your configuration is exactly what I would have gotten ... if it were available in the US. We only get the SEL (comparable to your Highline) with the DSG and only get the 6MT in SE (comparable to your Comfortline). Oh well, VW missed out of the extra markup from the sunroof, nav, etc.
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Old October 27th, 2011, 09:48   #21
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Should have added that 5.05 l/100km equals 46.58 MPG US or 55.94 MPG CDN. This seems about standard for what others are reporting - but very agreeable nevertheless.
Wow, I'm getting 5l/100k on my Yamaha FJR 1300. Maybe the flywheel is 200 lbs so that when you lift your foot, it can maintain speed for two miles.

I have a 2011 Golf TDI, and it gets comparable mileage. It is a pleasant surprise that a far larger (but not that much heavier IIRC) car does as well.
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Old October 27th, 2011, 14:13   #22
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Real world 45 miles per US gallon highway driving, under non hypermiling but flow with the traffic speed is VERY good for such a large car running on 235 shoes. VW definitely has a winner in the Passat TDI. I'd like to see VW throws in a 7th gear on all their manual TDI, it is badly needed.
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Old October 27th, 2011, 17:57   #23
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Wow, I'm getting 5l/100k on my Yamaha FJR 1300. Maybe the flywheel is 200 lbs so that when you lift your foot, it can maintain speed for two miles.

I have a 2011 Golf TDI, and it gets comparable mileage. It is a pleasant surprise that a far larger (but not that much heavier IIRC) car does as well.
i dont even get that on my 6MT Golf 2011...but I drive it pretty much with "spirit" !
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Old October 27th, 2011, 18:19   #24
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47-48 mpg for me in mixed city-hwy driving... still on first tank.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 09:19   #25
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Real world 45 miles per US gallon highway driving, under non hypermiling but flow with the traffic speed is VERY good for such a large car running on 235 shoes. VW definitely has a winner in the Passat TDI. I'd like to see VW throws in a 7th gear on all their manual TDI, it is badly needed.
you think doing 1600-1700rpms at 70mph would be better for the engine? I'm guessing VW picked the gearing to match a 65-70mph speed with optimum boost, EGR, and DPF emissions stuffs. If you go any much lower in engine speed I'd say they'd each take a hit in efficiency
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Old October 28th, 2011, 10:55   #26
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From what I've seen of the gear ratios, it looks to be more of a 5 speed anyway. Aren't 4 and 5 almost numerically equal?
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Old October 28th, 2011, 12:04   #27
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5th and 6th *should* use a different final drive ratio than 1st thru 4th, similar to the 2010's. Correct me if I'm wrong.

on my 2010, going from 4th to 5th only drop 200-250 RPMs at 45-50, so many time I find myself going from 4th to 6th when merging on the highway.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 12:53   #28
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Such a small rpm drop...I guess I would also go from 4 to 6.
I wonder if the DSG also does that since 4 and 5 are very close.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 14:33   #29
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Quick note on my fuel top-off today.......460 total miles driven - MFD read 46.7mpg - hand calculated = 47.1mpg. Mixed driving conditions, dang good results from the Passat, figure approx 15% better fuel economy than my 2011 Golf TDI DSG under like conditions. MFD on Passat is pretty good, reading a little short of actual mpg.

Only caveat here is that the tank was not completely full from dealer(tad short of full line), I had trouble getting it completely full as well(took 5 or 6 tries with nozzle releasing from backflow)still not completely full now based on fuel gauge, though it appears to be a tad more full than it was from dealer.....I figure my hand-calculated mpg is worst case results as I couldn't get another drop in the tank. My next fill up should be very accurate as I will do the 5 or 6 release trick to get it close to where I am today.
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Old October 30th, 2011, 16:56   #30
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Thumbs up Fuel consumption 1st tank

Just filled up the tank after 1,109 km (689 mls). When filled up, MFD indicated 93 mls to empty. That makes a total of 782 mls/tank.
My fuel consumption was 5.0 L/100km (47.04 mpg)
MFD estimate was right on.
Not bad for a brand new car and the 1st tank.

Got 4.2 L/100km or 56 mpg on hwy





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