Dual Diaphram Clutch Kit (& VR6) Group Buy

BleachedBora · Jun 2, 2007

Thanks guys, perhaps it's a combination of all 3

. It all makes sense though....

Meanwhile, back to the group buy--we're at 5 confirmed, fence sitters let me know!

Dual Diaphram Kit Signup Sheet--Standard G60 flywheels unless noted
(Bold have already sent me payment--makes things easier for me to track!)
1) Fix_until_broke '03 Jetta
2) Brew1 '03 Jetta
3) Sebpt '03 Jetta
4) mr.mindless '02 Jetta
+20th Anniversary rear brake upgrade kit
5) Mishkaya '06 Jetta

ReferenceDesign · Jun 2, 2007

I will need the std weight G60, both bolt sets, the throwout bearing, the disc and the dual diaphram. Cost? Do you supply an alignment key?

What is the difference in construction between a DD and a regular clutch?

What forms of payment do you accept?

Charlie

Bob S. · Jun 2, 2007

BB; I will let you know by Monday. I am almost certain I will go this route. Bob

03_01_TDI · Jun 3, 2007

I've had a dual diaphram on my car. it will cause the clutch fork to bend. You'll need to weld up the side or buy the clutch arm from ??? (can't recall the place) but they weld in a peice of steel and weld up the sides.

Fix_Until_Broke · Jun 3, 2007

With the same (claimed) pedal effort, why is there more force on the clutch fork causing it to bend? Is there a geometry change somewhere?

brew1 · Jun 3, 2007

03_01_TDI said:
I've had a dual diaphram on my car. it will cause the clutch fork to bend. You'll need to weld up the side or buy the clutch arm from ??? (can't recall the place) but they weld in a peice of steel and weld up the sides.

I'd like to hear more about your DD clutch. Brand, holding force, pedal height, drivability etc.

BleachedBora · Jun 4, 2007

Asked my vendor, got this response...

We have been selling the clutch kit with the dual diaphragm cover since Dec
of 2005. All the D/D covers come from the same vendor. We have purchased
and sold close to 100 covers. I have sold more then half of them myself and
have never heard about a clutch release bearing arm problem. The clutch
slave cyl and master cyl would fail along with the arm if the cover was that
stiff.

ishmael010 · Jun 4, 2007

The Clutch kits

BB-
I'm new to the forums, and have been gathering information about things I need to do to get the most out of my TDI - an '03 with 48000 miles on it. I understand the stock clutch is problematic, and wanted to check out your dual diaphram kit. I was looking through the kits you list and wasn't sure about the asking price for this particular kit using the Dual Diaphram and the G60 flywheel. Perhaps you can list it again for a new bonehead here, and is there a pilot tool available to install with?
Thanks in advance!

Ish

BleachedBora said:
Thanks guys, perhaps it's a combination of all 3 . It all makes sense though....

Meanwhile, back to the group buy--we're at 5 confirmed, fence sitters let me know!
Dual Diaphram Kit Signup Sheet--Standard G60 flywheels unless noted
(Bold have already sent me payment--makes things easier for me to track!)
1) Fix_until_broke '03 Jetta
2) Brew1 '03 Jetta
3) Sebpt '03 Jetta
4) mr.mindless '02 Jetta
+20th Anniversary rear brake upgrade kit
5) Mishkaya '06 Jetta

BleachedBora · Jun 4, 2007

No problem Ish--welcome to the club! I just clarified the original post with the pricing in red, as well as other important information in blue.
The stock dual mass flywheel does cause problems, especially when you start doing performance mods. If you are not doing a lot of mods yet and if you are not slipping then you don't need a clutch yet, as much as I would love to sell you a kit!
For most people with mild mods the VR6 kit ($385 shipped with the transmission stretch bolts) is more than enough holding power. However, if you want to go with some crazy power, and want to take advantage of this special deal, then the dual diaphram kit is probably the best kit out there that maintains stocklike feel, massive holding power, and takes advantage of the single mass flywheel. As my vendor has told me, the turbo VR6s use the kit and he has as of yet never had a kit returned to him. As for pilot tool, I am looking at sourcing them, but I had an alignment tool I spent $30 from Impex--it arrived broken, and it was 1 in the morning, we were in the middle of installing things. I found that a broom handle was low tech, but worked perfectly. I've had many people use that since then and all have said it worked great, and saved them having to have another tool lying around the place.
Please let me know if you have further questions, I hope that this answers them!
Cheers,
-BB

Sebpt · Jun 4, 2007

BleachedBora said:
and takes advantage of the single mass flywheel.

Is the SMF you are selling an OEM part or a copy? Some vary in quality

BleachedBora · Jun 4, 2007

OEM molds--they are the exact same flywheels that all other vendors on the club sell. I have heard complaints on some Chinese flywheels; there are 3 brands I use, all from the OEM molds, with some having the VW/AUDI symbol on the side. I have not had a complaint yet!

-BB

TDIMAXIMA · Jun 5, 2007

Guys, I may get in on this. Im just not sure what flywheel to get!

Sebpt · Jun 5, 2007

pulling out of GB

Sorry BleachBora but I am pooping the GB out...going to buy from a local vendor I cannot mention here...I am sure your kits will do well

Sebpt

BleachedBora · Jun 6, 2007

It's ok Sebpt--sorry it didn't work out, but I understand!

Dual Diaphram Kit Signup Sheet--Standard G60 flywheels unless noted
(Bold have already sent me payment--makes things easier for me to track!)
1) Fix_until_broke '03 Jetta
2) Brew1 '03 Jetta
3) mr.mindless '02 Jetta
+20th Anniversary rear brake upgrade kit
4) Mishkaya '06 Jetta
5) Bob S.
6) Lupin_the_3rd '96 Passat

buckweat diesel · Jun 6, 2007

buy bora u cant go wrong

man oh man
i would stick with bora. his kits are great i use them all the time never had a problem they hold up great.
thanks bleached bora for selling so cheap i cant pass up the buy

oh bora stands behind his product i like that

lupin..the..3rd · Jun 7, 2007

BB, add me to the GB list for a dual-diaphram kit.

PM sent!

BleachedBora · Jun 7, 2007

You're added and paid for Lupin--thanks and have a wonderful day!

Dual Diaphram Kit Signup Sheet--Standard G60 flywheels unless noted
(Bold have already sent me payment--makes things easier for me to track!)
1) Fix_until_broke '03 Jetta
2) Brew1 '03 Jetta
3) mr.mindless '02 Jetta
+20th Anniversary rear brake upgrade kit
4) Mishkaya '06 Jetta
5) Bob S.
6) Lupin_the_3rd '96 Passat

03_01_TDI · Jun 9, 2007

brew1 said:
I'd like to hear more about your DD clutch. Brand, holding force, pedal height, drivability etc.

clutchnet.com was the DD pressure plate I was using.

Drivability was fine and pedal engagement was really low but drivable.

MarkWaddle · Jun 9, 2007

with 3 passengers and some 90 MPH cruising my clutch started overheating and slipping slightly. put me on the list as a definite. is it ok if i paypal the $649?

edit: i just saw your note on paypal fees. i will google checkout the money to you.

z33 · Jun 9, 2007

Ordered my G60/VR6 clutch kit on Tuesday, Shipped on Wednesday, Recieved it Friday and Installed it today, Everything was Perfect! Bump for an A+++++++ Vendor

Thanks again Aaron!!!!

Edit: Google checkout worked perfect, smooth transaction and they even emailed me when the order shipped!

BleachedBora · Jun 9, 2007

Thanks Z for the kind words!
Mark--please send me a PM with your email address and I'll send an invoice.
I appreciate everyones support in the group buy--3 more to go!

T-Y · Jun 9, 2007

Aaron, I know I'm gonna need it. Why don't you just add me to the list. How do we handle payment?

Edit: How about you add a 0.681 5th gear to that order too? Thanks!

Bob S. · Jun 10, 2007

BB; PM sent w/ email info. Sorry to take so long. Bob

brew1 · Jun 10, 2007

BB, pm sent with email address for billing.

BleachedBora · Jun 10, 2007

No problem guys (including the gear)

. I am in Seattle right now, will be back home tonight and will get the invoices out. T-Y, please send me your email address and I'll get an invoice out to you via Google Checkout.
Cheers everyone!
-BB

brew1 · Jun 12, 2007

Payment submitted 6-11-07.

O.C.TDI · Jun 12, 2007

BB you can put me down for one of the dd. clutches, I will get a list with some other thing I need to you soon and pay up for all.

Thanks
O.C.TDI

BleachedBora · Jun 12, 2007

Thanks O.C.--that makes only one more! I will be ordering these as soon as the flywheels come in, which I was told today will probably be two weeks from Friday (29th). That means I'll have them that Tuesday and will get them right out from there. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he'll get his shipment in on that date

AtomicDog · Jun 13, 2007

How should the life/durability of the DD clutch compare to the regular VR6 one you're selling with, say, just a chip? I need to do my clutch soon and don't plan on doing any performance mods in addition to my chip besides injectors possibly, so I don't need the holding power of the DD clutch. If it'll handle more abuse and last longer, I might just go with the DD rather than the stock VR6 clutch as I planned.

BleachedBora · Jun 13, 2007

From what my vendor tells me it's about as bulletproof a clutch you can get for your car while maintaining stocklike driveability--in other words it will last a very long time. If turbo VR6 guys take it to the track and abuse it all the time then it can take some punishment. Similarly, I have some people that get hybrid turbos and run stock programming because they want something to last longer. If you are one of those people then this might be just the choice for you. If not however, then the VR6 should suit you well. It's like the difference between our 1.9TDI vs the V10 TDI

Hope that helps!
-BB

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