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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old June 25th, 2018, 16:48   #16
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Sales tax, is that like income tax?

Also make sure you got some tripple square bits for the install.
LOL.....

...and yes, I have the triple Sq. Swapped the RSB on my '06, used an OEM VW tubular bar though....23ishmm but I forget the wall thickness? It was from an Passat 4Mo
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Old July 12th, 2018, 18:15   #17
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Ok, I got the bar in Weds,,,, and in about 30 minutes new bar in (adjusted to the "tight" setting). Well, I was expecting more from the swap. Again, based on my experience with the "06 Jetta RSB swap. I will confirm that this is a more softly sprung car with a longer W.B. so the effects may be less noticeable (due to the W.B. and softer springs).
The rear for sure rotates easier but the front still wants to roll (body roll) <<< inherent is FWD cars I understand. Is it better balanced? More seat time is needed I will admit, and will update ASAP.

*** As with all suspension changes! Please take said vehicle to an empty parking lot and put it through a few paces of panic/avoidance moves to see and learn how the car will behave....in a panic situation. You HAVE to know how the car will react to differing scenarios.
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Old July 13th, 2018, 06:10   #18
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Time to drop the subframe and change out the front bar!

I've tossed around the idea of finding a mild drop .5" or slightly more aggressive spring rate for the wife's car, to tighten up the "boatyness" but she'd never buy it, and it's such a great ride on the highway I know that'd be compromised.
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Old July 13th, 2018, 17:22   #19
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Time to drop the subframe and change out the front bar!
That was my original plan after some coils...and still may be. I have heard and read conflicting info as a FSB would just bring back the front end "weight", ie: understeer inherent with FWD vehicles. I am no expert in that so I'll do some research.

But, before changing the FSB I would give H&R OEM Sport springs a try with some dampners, mild lowering (enough to lose the excess fender/tire gap and just a touch stiffer.....hoping it'll still ride nice...firm and sporty not so "grandma's Buick" like...
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Old July 16th, 2018, 04:36   #20
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Report back, not too many out there doing suspension upgrades on this platform.
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Old July 16th, 2018, 18:10   #21
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I will certainly do that.

I know H&R has "kits" they have both a 28/24 and a 26/22 kit (FSB/RSB combo). I would guess they are trying to keep the OEM "feel" (ie: understeer for safety reasons) with those combos. I wonder if a 26/24 would be a better match....less overall body roll (F&R) and also less understeer....? Not one to try and reinvent the wheel...if my budget would allow I would for everyone's benefit), I would try it. I will research it more and also try and contact H&R tech. Although, they seem to not have any direct Tech contact at 1st glance....


*Again both F & R sway bars from H&R are adjustable by two holes...tight and loose. So that ads to my mix...28 loose/24 tight, 26 tight/24 tight, 26 loose/24 tight, or what? Notice 24 is always tight...LOL
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Old July 17th, 2018, 05:56   #22
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If I were to drop the coin I'd prob just do the 26mm bar, try it on loose and then go to tight if need be.

I also see OE Sport Springs 54760-55 give a 3/4" drop, maybe I can convince the wife the springs are shot on her 20K mile car.
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Old July 17th, 2018, 17:06   #23
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If I were to drop the coin I'd prob just do the 26mm bar, try it on loose and then go to tight if need be.

I also see OE Sport Springs 54760-55 give a 3/4" drop, maybe I can convince the wife the springs are shot on her 20K mile car.
Yeah, the OE Sports are the only springs I'd consider. Minor increase in rate and a slight drop, almost not noticeable .....the slammed, poked, and stretched scene is just NOT my thing...LOL
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Old July 18th, 2018, 05:31   #24
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you say that now, pretty soon you'll be asking if you the NMS can fit 9" wide rims with 235 series tires.
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Old July 18th, 2018, 17:43   #25
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you say that now, pretty soon you'll be asking if you the NMS can fit 9" wide rims with 235 series tires.
My god No.....considering 245/40 (spacers if needed) on stock 18's....keeping tire height about OE.....
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