Your eyes are working right.
There was a copy and paste from Sandsdiesel in the first post - then he/she added the PDF's and then they were removed. Like JSWTDI09 said - only Sandsdiesel knows why and who.
TDI Recall and Stop Sale notice.
- Thread starter SandDiesel
- Start date
There was a copy and paste from Sandsdiesel in the first post - then he/she added the PDF's and then they were removed. Like JSWTDI09 said - only Sandsdiesel knows why and who.
dweisel
Top Post Dawg
Hmmmmmmmm,I guess you have never seen a fine mist of diesel thats pressurize catch fire?
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40X40
Experienced
Ski in NC
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If you look at a ALH engine, the little clamps on the fuel lines are actually vibration dampers. Designed to prevent the exact same type of failure seen on the CR's. Should not be a big deal to fix. Change shape of fuel line or add dampers and weights.
dweisel
Top Post Dawg
Although the below article is talking about heavy trucks. The same conditions appy to any diesel vehicle. And we all know how HOT the DPF gets under the hood.
The diesel fuel injection system of a heavy truck has the potential to become a fuel source for a fire. Two basic types of diesel fuel systems are used in today’s vehicles: high- and low-pressure fuel injection systems. Many high-pressure systems develop pressures well above 1,000 pounds per square inch (psi). If a diesel fuel leak occurs under this amount of pressure, the fuel will be very finely divided and atomized, which heightens its susceptibility to ignition. Even in a low-pressure system of 70 to 150 psi can cause diesel fuel to be expelled long distances and easily atomized. If this condition occurs in the presence of the heat produced by the exhaust system, a fire is likely.
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TDIadvocate
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Injector diesel fuel leakage etc
Earlier today I saw a copy of the recall notice now I can no longer find it, can you help me find it. Injectors 1 and 2 from passenger side of vehicle are leaking on mine four weeks old, 3,600 miles, also driver fendor well from engine compartment side has a sticky substance, like diesel fuel in it or on it. The well has a portion with light green paint and it smells and is oily like diesel fuel ????
I am going to dealer tomorrow morning I would like to be prepared.
Earlier today I saw a copy of the recall notice now I can no longer find it, can you help me find it. Injectors 1 and 2 from passenger side of vehicle are leaking on mine four weeks old, 3,600 miles, also driver fendor well from engine compartment side has a sticky substance, like diesel fuel in it or on it. The well has a portion with light green paint and it smells and is oily like diesel fuel ????
I am going to dealer tomorrow morning I would like to be prepared.
SandDiesel
Active member
Sticky substance is likely cosmoline or similar to prevent corrosion and will wear off in time.
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CedarPark68
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Jack Frost
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astoryatthree
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Go to http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls/ and do a search for the Jettas. They have the explanation there and say they will fix it by putting dampers on all four injection lines as a precautionary measure.
Also, the fixes will begin rolling out as soon as they have the parts in stock and notifications will be delivered in November.
Also, the fixes will begin rolling out as soon as they have the parts in stock and notifications will be delivered in November.
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NorthernMage
Veteran Member
I just picked my 2012 Comfortline Jetta TDI up on Saturday with 47 Kms on it, and I just checked on the VW.CA site and yes there is a 23J9 recall for diesel fuel lines on my vehicle already. I was hoping that all the bugs would be sorted out in the first model year but I should have waited until the third I guess.... It still is a great car to drive and feels very solid, I would rather a car company be proactive and issue a recall than hide it in a TSB and only fix the ones that break - which seems to be what most North American car makers do.
Still very happy with the car although last year they used Hankook Optimo tires, which I like, but this year they put on Bridgestone Turanza EL400s which don't seem to be as good, the UTQC is only 300 so they will wear quite fast.
Still very happy with the car although last year they used Hankook Optimo tires, which I like, but this year they put on Bridgestone Turanza EL400s which don't seem to be as good, the UTQC is only 300 so they will wear quite fast.
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tomc585
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Sweeps
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- Joined
- Jul 24, 2005
- Location
- Orillia, Ontario, Canada
- TDI
- None currently. MK4/5/6 Jetta's in the past.
Some of the articles that I have seen say they affect all CR TDI's from Sept 2008-Sept 2011 build dates, but the Autospies image posted here shows only some build months.
Can anyone clear this up?
Can anyone clear this up?
kjclow
Top Post Dawg
- Joined
- Apr 26, 2003
- Location
- Charlotte, NC
- TDI
- 2010 JSW TDI silver and black. 2017 Ram Ecodiesel dark red with brown and beige interior.
JThiessen
Veteran Member
It can. But like your corn starch example, you must put it in a fairly precise environment.If corn starch can cause explosions, why wouldn't diesel mist!
not likely, but possible...
Never. Had two #4 injector lines burst on my Dodge HPCR over the years. Drove each time for a minimum of 18 miles with no fire or explosion.
Even though the fuel may be under high pressure, it is still not compressed enough to catch fire unless it contacts a significant heat source prior to it stablizing in the ambient air.
As was stated above, HPCR systems are susceptible to failures of fatigue/cracking on the lines since they are made from a hard alloy, which while it resists the internal rigors of the high pressure fuel with little wear, it does not handle flexing very well.
JSWTDI09
Top Post Dawg
This will help.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/docservlet/Artemis/Public/Recalls/2011/V/RCDNN-11V490-9955.pdf
Look at page 3 section 573.6.(c) (8) Proposed Remedial Program.
It says all cars will get resonance dampeners, but only certain build dates will get new fuel lines.
Have Fun!
Don
P.S. This is the problem with having 7 different threads about the same recall - the information is spread all over the place.
kjclow
Top Post Dawg
- Joined
- Apr 26, 2003
- Location
- Charlotte, NC
- TDI
- 2010 JSW TDI silver and black. 2017 Ram Ecodiesel dark red with brown and beige interior.
Would be great if someone consolidated all these threads into one.
JettersTDI
Veteran Member
I brought in my car to the dealer for the recall, and I guess mine only needed the rubber dampeners (4 total). I have a 2012 with only 400 miles.
NorthernMage
Veteran Member
I just received my recall as well, took 10 minutes to fix, they just put the rubber dampeners on. Mine is a 2012 with less than 350 Kms. The service desk said they had limited parts at the moment but more were expected next week.
300six
New member
I have been hassling my service rep about this, but he says my car isn't part of recall. When I plug in the VIN to VW's website, it says there are no active recalls on my car.
I find that hard to believe, given that it's a brand spankin' new 2012 purchased 09/30/2011 and must have been built within the date range shown on the recall notice.
I can't check my door tag for mo. of manufacture right now since the car is back at the dealer for unrelated injector issues.
It looks I'll be waiting until November for the fix.
My folks have a 2011 A3 TDI, so it will be interesting to find out when they are called in for the recall.
I'll post updates as soon as I find out.
I find that hard to believe, given that it's a brand spankin' new 2012 purchased 09/30/2011 and must have been built within the date range shown on the recall notice.
I can't check my door tag for mo. of manufacture right now since the car is back at the dealer for unrelated injector issues.
It looks I'll be waiting until November for the fix.
My folks have a 2011 A3 TDI, so it will be interesting to find out when they are called in for the recall.
I'll post updates as soon as I find out.
NorthernMage
Veteran Member
300six, mine was a brand new 2012 purchased 10/01/2011 so one day after yours and it was part of the recall, I input my VIN on the VW site and it told me that I had the 23J9 recall for fuel lines outstanding. The next day they called me and I took it in....
See if the Canadian site will recognize your VIN and spit out the recall;
http://www.vw.ca/en/owners/about_your_volkswagen/vin_recall.html
See if the Canadian site will recognize your VIN and spit out the recall;
http://www.vw.ca/en/owners/about_your_volkswagen/vin_recall.html
JaredC01
Veteran Member
Canadian VW site didn't work for my US VIN.
300six
New member
NorthernMage, that's good to know - thanks. I tried the Canadian site but it also did not recognize my VIN.
From the US VW website, Recalls/ Campaigns section:
Open Recalls/Campaigns for VIN: 3VW3L7AJ3CM014672
There are no current recalls/campaigns for your VW.
I'm stumped.
From the US VW website, Recalls/ Campaigns section:
Open Recalls/Campaigns for VIN: 3VW3L7AJ3CM014672
There are no current recalls/campaigns for your VW.
I'm stumped.
JSWTDI09
Top Post Dawg
You shouldn't be stumped. VW says that the recall starts in November and it is still October. VW has not yet entered our cars into their computer system. All CR (2009+) diesels will get the recall. Most will only get the resonance dampeners (little pieces of rubber), but a few selected build dates will get new injector line to injector #2. Check back on the recall website in a month - I bet it will show up then. Have a little patience. VW just announced that there will be a recall. It has not yet been inputted into their computer system.
Have Fun!
Don
NorthernMage
Veteran Member
23J9 Recall Completed
Here is a photo of the completed recall - click on the image for larger photo;
http://pics.tdiclub.com/showphoto.php?photo=80177&title=23j9-b&cat=5346
As you can see there are only four small rubber dampeners on the fuel lines, not sure what that Styrofoam piece is behind the fuel lines though.
http://pics.tdiclub.com/showphoto.php?photo=80177&title=23j9-b&cat=5346
As you can see there are only four small rubber dampeners on the fuel lines, not sure what that Styrofoam piece is behind the fuel lines though.
dajo
Member
I wonder if there is an error in the serial numbers for the JSW. The last serial number is only 60,000 range and they are up 600,000 on the cars made in August 2011. All the other serial numbers are up into the hundred thousands range on all models. My number is cm601534. Anybody else notice this? I just checked my car and it does not have the dampeners installed.
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bluelineman
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Thanks for posting that. Looks like I get a new fuel line. Build date 12/10.