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TDI Conversions Discussions on converting non TDIs into TDIS. More general items can be answered better in other sections. This is ideal for issues that don't have an overlap and are very special to swaping engines.

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Old April 6th, 2019, 08:08   #1
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Hey, so I've been planning a swap, reading all the builds I can, and I'm curious on people's thoughts and concerns on an ALH swap into a 2005 Ranger FX4 Level 2. A buddy of mine is thinking of selling his and I thought it would be awesome swap, it's currently got an auto with electronic t case, so I was thinking of swapping that out for probobly an AX15 and manual t case. I've already got the donor car, 2000 Jetta, with a really clean ALH. From reading. The real problems are the frame rails and engine cross member, what are your thoughts!


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Old April 6th, 2019, 08:24   #2
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This would be cooler
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Old April 6th, 2019, 09:15   #3
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ALH in a Ranger is basically a 'non-event', as in it has been done many times and works well. ALH in a 2001 Ranger is my daily driver.
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Old April 7th, 2019, 04:47   #4
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Matt whitbread has a ranger with a BHW. Im sure it's got a few mods too, he loves the performance and economy.
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Old April 9th, 2019, 17:43   #5
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Sweet. Well that's good to hear. I bought the truck so I'll be sure to post when I start the swap.


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Old April 9th, 2019, 21:17   #6
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I did an 05 Ranger automatic. Good idea to swap in the manual.
Here is my thread. http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=438039
I usually have the 3 and 4L V6 Ranger adapters in stock. If you go with the Jeep 4L AX15 then I would also have a high inertia flywheel.
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Old April 10th, 2019, 00:22   #7
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For purely selfish reasons (I have an '03 Level II, auto), would be interesting to see someone retain the auto trans and auto xfer case. At least we have 4:10 rear to start with...
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Old April 10th, 2019, 05:58   #8
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Evguy1- I've read your build, it's awesome. Not 100% what transmission I'll use but figured swapping a manual would be easier then making a TCM work as well. Yours seemed to work good though. Will have to do some measurements to see where the ax15 shifter plate will end up in the cab to see if it'll work. Will be grabbing the truck at the end of the month so it'll still be a couple months before I start on this project but sure looking forward to it.
Chucky2- I thought about keeping it all auto, but it'll be one less thing to try and get to work properly. The 4:10's are a bonus. It should put the ALH in good rpm for highway.


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Old April 10th, 2019, 13:26   #9
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Chucky2- I thought about keeping it all auto, but it'll be one less thing to try and get to work properly. The 4:10's are a bonus. It should put the ALH in good rpm for highway.


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I understand and don't blame you. For some reason though, I thought EVguy had said that he just fed the Ranger computer a signal or two and let it control the transmission. I had bookmarks on his comments but lost them somehow. If it's as simple as a couple wires and/or a dakota digital box, that might be a whole heck of a lot easier than taking out the trans and transfer case, cutting holes for shifters (plural, you'd go twin stick right?), and then putting in manual trans and xfer case.


I get it though, with the manual stuff, no electronic headaches to worry about...
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Old April 11th, 2019, 06:28   #10
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Chucky2- that's a good point. I actually haven't read much into keeping any of the auto stuff because I just figured it would be more of pain then it's worth and i much prefer driving standard lol. Doesn't hurt for me to research it up. Could save me time....


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Old April 12th, 2019, 07:05   #11
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It was basically a throttle position signal and tach signal.
I did modify the tach siganl with a DD box to get the sift points lower. Then had to modify the nactual tach output siganl from the ECU to the dash with another DD box to get the tach reading corect. I think its all here https://www.therangerstation.com/for...ersion.161412/
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Old April 12th, 2019, 11:07   #12
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I wonder though without the electro-mechanical franken Ranger you had evguy how bad it really would have been (man I wish I had the time and facilities to try!). For example your post here, https://www.therangerstation.com/for...2/post-1529810, says the Ford ECU was programmed for 3.70 rear but the truck had 4.10. All Level II Rangers have 4.10 stock, so presumably, their ECU should also be set to 4.10 instead of 3.70...I wonder how much trouble that would have saved you evguy in your build if you'd had the benefit of everything being one year and 4.10 stock...
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Old April 12th, 2019, 12:24   #13
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I totally agree, if I had a complete truck rather than a collection of parts it would have gone much better. Probably just need the RPM and TPS signals and it would be fine.
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Do you think it'd still need the voltage and voltage type (VW hall effect vs Ford whatever) mods? Or is it not really possible to know unless the truck is stock?
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Old April 12th, 2019, 19:37   #15
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Thanks for the input guys. Evguy1- I'm down in courtenay. I've got to do more reading into the wiring side of the ranger. Once i actually grab the truck ill be able to learn a bit more. I've got little to no knowledge on automatic transmission and about the same on any Ford vehicles lol. Mechanically speaking I'm not super worried about the swapping in a manual, hence the original thought to just swap out the auto. More worried about all the extra wiring. Could Possibly do a Ford 5 speed. Does anybody know if the 5 speed trans would work with the E-tcase? The original thought for the AX15 was just because my buddy put one in his XJ TDI swap he's doing and I know you can get the high inertia flywheels.


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