Malone Stage 2 with Delete?

trae

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Just purchased 2013 Q7. Am interested in Malone Stage 2 tuning. Also curious about the delete - any Q5/Q7 owners out there who have had the delete done, and what have you noticed re improved power, driveability, fuel economy etc.?

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Tom
 

trae

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Just purchased 2013 Q7. Am interested in Malone Stage 2 tuning. Also curious about the delete - any Q5/Q7 owners out there who have had the delete done, and what have you noticed re improved power, driveability, fuel economy etc.?
Thanks,
Tom
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trae

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Try Club Touareg, much more info there on tuned 3.0 TDI's.
Just signed up with them and posted. Hopefully they won't look at the Audi with disdain.

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I got 8MPG better highway MPG after tune and delete.
 

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I just got my dpf and egr deleted yesterday with a Malone Stage 2+ tune and drove a couple hundred miles home. The power and MPG is SO much better than stock. If you’re considering getting it done have the money to do it, just get it done. You won’t regret it.
 

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I just got my dpf and egr deleted yesterday with a Malone Stage 2+ tune and drove a couple hundred miles home. The power and MPG is SO much better than stock. If you’re considering getting it done have the money to do it, just get it done. You won’t regret it.
Wow awesome. Time to start saving my spare change.
 

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I just got my dpf and egr deleted yesterday with a Malone Stage 2+ tune and drove a couple hundred miles home. The power and MPG is SO much better than stock. If you’re considering getting it done have the money to do it, just get it done. You won’t regret it.
You still have the catalytic converter still on the car? Wondering how the smell is around the car. I keep seesawing back and forth to get the full delete.
 

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You still have the catalytic converter still on the car? Wondering how the smell is around the car. I keep seesawing back and forth to get the full delete.

I emailed Malone as to what parts are removed/deactivated with the delete - here is the response -

"Everything post-turbo but the primary O2, the egr can be removed entirely as well but most people just leave it intact. Some people remove the primary cat as well, but only the dpf needs removed."

Although I can't speak for them my take from this Malone feels removing the cat doesn't have a measurable impact; if it did it'd be part of the standard delete.
 

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It would have affect smell, power overall is limited based on exhaust temperatures (say racing up a mountain at 100mph). A more free flowing exhaust would result in hitting exhaust temperature limiters later, but the difference is fairly negligible since most of the restriction comes from the dpf and turbo itself. The power reduction is smooth and temporary until temperatures reduce, so without logging you shouldn't feel it, just like factory.
 

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You still have the catalytic converter still on the car? Wondering how the smell is around the car. I keep seesawing back and forth to get the full delete.
Huskies,

I went back and forth about the cat as well. I did things a tad backwards and ordered the Rawtek with a high flow cat, had the cat cut out before it was installed (so I have the cat to put in later if I want), and the smell is not bad. While in the car, I can’t smell the exhaust at all. I’ll smell it if I reverse and go through my exhaust with my windows down, or step out of the car after I shut it off. If you remember how school bus exhausts smell, that’s what a completely decatted and deleted tdi smells; like childhood memories ;).

The cat will possibly be put back in further downstream on the exhaust if/when I decide to put the cat back in.

Reason why: when the time comes for a new cat (~150k miles?), I don’t trust any old exhaust shop to unbolt my downpipe from my turbo, remove a cat, change the cat, and bolt it back up without causing any leaks. That will make for a longer job which is more money, and possible hiccups. Placing the cat right at the bottom of my downpipe (when the pipe starts to run parallel to the ground) will make it an easy job for future changes; jack the car up, cut the cat out, replace, weld, and done- quick and easy. No need to touch the turbo. There are probably easier ways but this seemed cost effective for me and issue-free cat changes. To be honest, so far, I have no want to put the cat in yet. It just sits in my garage in case the time comes ;)

Happy modding, cheers.

Deeds
 
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