A Little Confused

I read that our cars are not subject to the emissions issue, but we also have threads on here about what phase people's cars have been performed.

When I use my VIN on the VW site it states:

This VIN is not part of the VW diesel settlement. Please contact VW at 1-800-822-8987 for further information.

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That tells me that my car was fully US emissions compliant from day one. But, there is currently a thread called "TDI Phase 2" with the OP owning a 15 GSW...

Whats the story here?

All diesel cars from 2009 and up to and including 2015 were part of the emissions settlement. You may be getting that due to the end of the program. Did you call the number and ask?

Beeah said:

I read that our cars are not subject to the emissions issue, but we also have threads on here about what phase people's cars have been performed.

When I use my VIN on the VW site it states:


That tells me that my car was fully US emissions compliant from day one. But, there is currently a thread called "TDI Phase 2" with the OP owning a 15 GSW...

Whats the story here?

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Use capital letters for the VIN number you enter, lower case letters cause the VIN number not to be found.

Lightflyer1 said:

All diesel cars from 2009 and up to and including 2015 were part of the emissions settlement. You may be getting that due to the end of the program. Did you call the number and ask?

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I just bought the car about a month ago, was just wondering about it.

tactdi said:

Use capital letters for the VIN number you enter, lower case letters cause the VIN number not to be found.

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Thanks! That did it.

Says "Modification Completed for this Vehicle (VIN): PARTIAL"

I assume that just means Phase 1 is complete?

Thanks for the answers guys!

There is a sticker under the hood that says if it was completed.

Beeah said:

I just bought the car about a month ago, was just wondering about it.

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Did you purchase the car from a VW dealership? If so, that should help with the forum guessing your situation.

From my understanding, TDI VW sold as CPO are required to be fixed, if they fall into the correct time period.

Buying from a used car dealership.. that's a different story.

Beeah said:

I just bought the car about a month ago, was just wondering about it.

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Did you purchase the car from a VW dealership? If so, that should help with the forum guessing your situation.

From my understanding, TDI VW sold as CPO are required to be fixed, if they fall into the correct time period.

Buying from a used car dealership.. that's a different story.

15TDICommuter said:

Buying from a used car dealership.. that's a different story.

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What is different? I bought mine from a wholesaler and it was fixed, I thought VW was required to fix all of them before putting them into the market.

I bought it from a TDI specialist dealership, so no, not a VW dealer.

Id wager, 99.99% of 15's bought at all dealers will have some sort of fix applied.

Call up a VW dealership, toss them your VIN and see if you still need phase 2. my guess is that VWoA has just been doing phase 1 and unloading most of these cars as cheap as possible.

Remember phase 2 is for emissions components meeting the life of the car (and is considered an emissions recall only).

Phase 1 altered the tail pipe emissions enough to make EPA happy, thus can be sold/resold without big government claiming your killing 15 babies on your commute to work.

bigb said:

What is different? I bought mine from a wholesaler and it was fixed, I thought VW was required to fix all of them before putting them into the market.

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If the car was never bought back by VW and then traded in at a used car dealership, the car may (likely to be) be sold right on the same lot. Therefore it's possible that the car never received the fixes. Not saying that's this case could I believe this scenario is possible.

Example: Buying a new car in 1995, it was top of the line in '95 and met all the standards set by whatever regulating bodies. 15 years later those emission standards are total different, does that mean the dealer is required to fix you 1995 car and bring it up to 2010 standards? No.

Yes, fully aware that's not what occurred with the scandal but the buy back was never required, it was an offer to VW TDI owners to make it right. So there are cars out there with pre-fixed systems that may end up being traded in and then eventually sold and never to see a VW dealership or shop. You were never forced to have the car fixed or purchased back - it was simply an option and a great one at that.

Beeah said:

I bought it from a TDI specialist dealership, so no, not a VW dealer.

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Which may be working with VW directly to sell these cars as fixed, or your TDI specialist dealership is able to purchase the cars 'fixed' and then sell as fixed with the CPO warranty.

From my understanding, if the car is 'fixed' and purchased through a VW dealership you warranty starts at the day of YOUR purchase and not the dealerships. It would be interesting to see when your warranty expires in relation to when you purchased the car.

Any car that was bought back by VW was required to be fixed, at least part one. Any car not bought back by VW may or may not be fixed. Read the document for warranty info as what is listed in the post above is incorrect. The in service date is when the car was first purchased new by the first owner. The warranty is based on the in service date and mileage or fixed date and mileage whichever is greater.

Lightflyer1 said:

Any car that was bought back by VW was required to be fixed, at least part one. Any car not bought back by VW may or may not be fixed. Read the document for warranty info as what is listed in the post above is incorrect. The in service date is when the car was first purchased new by the first owner. The warranty is based on the in service date and mileage or fixed date and mileage whichever is greater.

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Highly suggest reading what I posted, as you are saying exactly the same thing I posted and then called wrong.

If the car was never bought back by VW and then traded in at a used car dealership, the car may (likely to be) be sold right on the same lot. Therefore it's possible that the car never received the fixes. - If it never sees a VW dealer it would never be fixed. The service date is based off the sale date as a CPO/FIXED car from the VW dealer, it may be a individual or a used car lot or even a TDI Specialist dealership (given its not a VWoA dealer), whoever it may be purchasing the car after the fix, it starts as a CPO. When it gets sold again the warranty date remains intact, so if a TDI shop bought the fixed car and then resold it on their own, the date would be the TDI shop purchase date and not the second/more recent sale of the car.



You: "Any car not bought back by VW may or may not be fixed."
Me: "If the car was never bought back by VW and then traded in at a used car dealership, the car may (likely to be) be sold right on the same lot. Therefore it's possible that the car never received the fixes..."

You: "The in service date is when the car was first purchased new by the first owner."
Me: "...if the car is 'fixed' and purchased through a VW dealership you warranty starts at the day of YOUR purchase."

I said you were wrong about the warranty info you posted. Maybe you should read again. What you said was "fixed and then purchased". In that case you are not the first owner unless you bought a stop sale car. Not the case here. The OP is not the first owner. So the in service date would be when the "first owner" bought the car not the OP. The in service date of this car would be sometime in 2014 or 2015 not a month ago when the OP bought it. Read the warranty document! The in service date has nothing to do with CPO or when anyone bought it except the original first owner.