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Old November 8th, 2018, 11:07   #1
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That's the good. The bad? It only has 70 miles and hasn't had any maintenance performed. It's sounds like the dealer pocketed the maintenance money instead of keeping this Touareg in tip-top shape.



My instinct is to run from a (diesel) vehicle that has been sitting for three whole years. The tires are guaranteed to have flat spots and the fuel will be practically incombustible. And then you have the brake components. And potential fuel pump issues down the road.


It doesn't sound like the dealer wants to put any money in it. I haven't driven the vehicle nor have I personally inspected it.


IMO, at a minimum, the tires will have to be replaced and the fuel will have to be drained. What do you guys think?
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Old November 8th, 2018, 13:57   #2
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Friend bought a 16 new ~10 months ago. Granted he works for the dealer and had them change the air, cabin, diesel filters, engine oil/filter twice after running it for a couple hundred, new battery and tires. Even with all that I don't think he got that great of a deal on the OTD price.

No way an outsider will get that treatment and that is why when I got mine a couple months ago two local dealers each had a new 2016 on their lot they would not budge under 42 grand let alone do any of what my friend managed to get as far as fluids, battery, tires. FWIW I offered both dealers 36 grand for them and they would not even take that to their manager. All were the sport model you are looking at.

I ended up with a 2013 LUX model with only 19K miles and all service (it's had it's 10-20-30-40-50K services done annually) for 26 grand. Well worth the price of a one way rental and a road trip home. This was out of Chicago.
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These vehicles are capable of five figure repair costs. It's too much of a risk IMO.
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Old November 8th, 2018, 14:46   #4
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5 figure.....bold statement, but anything is possible. I am crossing my fingers mine lasts me a long time. No timing belt or DSG trans service to worry about so that is a minor weight off my shoulders.
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5 figure.....bold statement, but anything is possible. I am crossing my fingers mine lasts me a long time. No timing belt or DSG trans service to worry about so that is a minor weight off my shoulders.

I'm more or less referring to the HPFP. Beyond that, it's possible to drop five figures over the course of a year or two, that's for sure.


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I'm more or less referring to the HPFP. Beyond that, it's possible to drop five figures over the course of a year or two, that's for sure.
The HPFP, along with all other fuel related components, (and a bunch of other components) is covered 100% by VW's extended warranty for 10 years or 120,000 miles.
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The HPFP, along with all other fuel related components, (and a bunch of other components) is covered 100% by VW's extended warranty for 10 years or 120,000 miles.

I'm aware of that. I have a 2015 Golf TDI that I bought after the stop-sale was lifted.


My concern would be after 120K if the fuel pump experienced lousy diesel fuel early in its life.
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How does that equate to 6 figure repair bills over the course of a year or two? What else are you so worried about failing? For 2 grand you can tune and delete all those future issues if you don't live in a state that won't allow it.
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How does that equate to 6 figure repair bills over the course of a year or two? What else are you so worried about failing? For 2 grand you can tune and delete all those future issues if you don't live in a state that won't allow it.

I was being dramatic lol.



For a few days it looked like my 16 VR6 had a rear main seal leak. I took it to the dealer and they said that it's coming from a loose oil filter that THEY installed. Of course they blamed the independent shop that did other work. I have to get it back on the lift in a few weeks to make sure it's still dry.


I generally let the dealer do oil changes if I have other warranty work.
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Sounded awfully dramatic.
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Sounded awfully dramatic.

If the fuel pump implodes after 120K, there's 5 figures. Real main seal leak...$5K? I don't know exactly for that job.


Turbo after 120K miles....$2,500.


Center support bearing...



My point, drama notwithstanding, is that these things can bite you once the miles add up. And in this case, the vehicle has been sitting for three years. It's really unknown how lot rot will affect a diesel vehicle's long term prospects. Had it been maintained per VW's mandate, the odds would have been better, that's for sure.
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Old November 12th, 2018, 07:04   #12
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You are making up scenarios that may never be an issue. Fuel pump imploding? FIVE figures to get that repaired? Come awn man!

Sounds like you need to look into a different vehicle, the Touareg seems to be voodoo to you.
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You are making up scenarios that may never be an issue. Fuel pump imploding? FIVE figures to get that repaired? Come awn man!

Sounds like you need to look into a different vehicle, the Touareg seems to be voodoo to you.

I have a '16 Sport VR6. We bought it with 13K miles and it currently has 45K on it. I wouldn't call it unreliable but it's been the quirkiest among all of the VW's I've owned (four CR diesels).

Would you start up a Treg TDI with three year old diesel in the tank? On that note, how many common rail TDI Tregs have gone three years with the same tank of fuel? Some aspects of this car are unprecedented.

Three year old diesel + the possibility (remote, albeit) of HPFP issues = cause for concern in my book. HPFP issues on a Treg can cost well into five figures outside of warranty.

My point is that this specific Treg is off to a bad start. And that's not what I'm looking for.

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So you bought it and it's scaring you or you found a deal on one but are scared because of issues you are making up in your head? These 5 figure repair bills are also in your head. This 2016 will have a helluva lot of warranty left on it. I would argue to get the standard full bumper to bumper warranty as well if that's expired due to age

I'd take 3 year old diesel over 3 year old gas any day of the week. For you to be comfortable buying it, a lot of expense would have to be eaten by the dealer to clean the fuel system, new tires, fluids, filters, etc like I have already mentioned. All things I think need to be done, it's a matter of will the dealer do this.
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So you bought it and it's scaring you or you found a deal on one but are scared because of issues you are making up in your head? These 5 figure repair bills are also in your head. This 2016 will have a helluva lot of warranty left on it. I would argue to get the standard full bumper to bumper warranty as well if that's expired due to age

I'd take 3 year old diesel over 3 year old gas any day of the week. For you to be comfortable buying it, a lot of expense would have to be eaten by the dealer to clean the fuel system, new tires, fluids, filters, etc like I have already mentioned. All things I think need to be done, it's a matter of will the dealer do this.

Dude, an HPFP implosion is $16K to fix. It’s well documented. Yes, I know, the dieselgate warranty will cover it. I still don’t want half my car ripped apart for this kind of repair if it were to happen. And for it to happen it would require extraordinary circumstances. Running a CR TDI with three year old diesel in the tank may very well be such a circumstance.

Here’s my experience with the ‘16 VR6 Sport we purchased fifteen months ago (13K miles):
- Thermostat replaced
- Misfires (due to poor fuel - hasn’t returned)
- Transmission error (occurred once - dealer found no issues)
- Noise in rear, sway bar end links replaced
- 2nd thermostat replaced along with water pump
- Rear main seal leak suspected via independent shop. Dealer disagreed and blamed loose oil filter. Issue still TBD

The vehicle currently has 42,500. Its under CPO until 60K.

I’m not sure how this thread got derailed. It’s a very expensive vehicle to own. Are you in denial about that?!? I admitted that a five figure repair was dramatic. How many times would you like to address this comment? A third or fourth time, perhaps?

I’m 6’3” with a long torso and no SUV fits me better than a Touareg. As a diesel guy I always wanted a TDI.

Regarding the white one mentioned in the original post. The dealer’s response was essentially “take it or leave it”. They don’t feel that it needs maintenance performed. Yep, a real lousy place to do business with. Next!


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