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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old May 2nd, 2019, 17:12   #1
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Default rns 510 install... now car wont start

So the rns 510 in my 2014 passat tdi sel works when it wants to. Sometimes not coming for weeks. two days ago i found a guy selling a rns 510 out of his 2010 jetta sports wagon. i got the pin and installed it two days ago. The main problem i was getting is that it did not have sound. So i looked up what was needed to re-code using vcds. So I re-coded it using some of the info i found online mainly vwvortex and eurozonetuneing and completed a hard reset. Once i reset the head unit my car started acting funny. First it was a airbag error then a brake error, this turned into my car not able to start or turn off. The instrument panel is now flashing constantly on and off. Any tips etc will be appreciated.
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Old May 2nd, 2019, 19:36   #2
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Fixed the no start issue, somehow I killed the battery. Still not getting any sound out of the rns 510, also no reverse camera.
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Old May 3rd, 2019, 01:35   #3
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Your 2014 SEL has the Fender premium sound and the 2010 does not. I’m frankly not even sure if they’re swappable due to them being completely different generations of cars. Considering reverse cameras weren’t added to VWs until 2013, I’m not surprised it’s not working.

But the difference in amplification is why you’re not getting any sound. You need to see if you can use VCDS to code your new unit to output a line-level signal that your Fender amp accepts.

Moreover, the RNS is a terrible unit with dizzying amount of revisions. Get an RCD-330 (specifically 6RD 035 187E) instead and enjoy Android Auto or CarPlay with your Fender system.

Also, it’s dangerous to do these installs with the battery connected. The Airbag warning was triggered when you disconnected (or perhaps just moved) the triangle/hazard button.
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Old May 3rd, 2019, 04:29   #4
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Your 2014 SEL has the Fender premium sound and the 2010 does not. Iím frankly not even sure if theyíre swappable due to them being completely different generations of cars. Considering reverse cameras werenít added to VWs until 2013, Iím not surprised itís not working.

But the difference in amplification is why youíre not getting any sound. You need to see if you can use VCDS to code your new unit to output a line-level signal that your Fender amp accepts.

Moreover, the RNS is a terrible unit with dizzying amount of revisions. Get an RCD-330 (specifically 6RD 035 187E) instead and enjoy Android Auto or CarPlay with your Fender system.

Also, itís dangerous to do these installs with the battery connected. The Airbag warning was triggered when you disconnected (or perhaps just moved) the triangle/hazard button.
While reverse cameras weren't added per OEM cut sheet/bean counters before 2013, I believe the RNS could always accept the back up camera just needed the camera and coding change, this was the case for our 2012 RNS315, and I believe I remember seeing 2010 jettas able to do the same mod.

I'd have to question the quality and condition of the used unit, i could be the source off the head aches and dead battery.

Agree with disconnecting the battery to avoid the air bag warning light, but seeing you had VCDS out for coding it must have been a simple reset to avoid the dash light.
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Old May 3rd, 2019, 05:01   #5
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While reverse cameras weren't added per OEM cut sheet/bean counters before 2013, I believe the RNS could always accept the back up camera just needed the camera and coding change, this was the case for our 2012 RNS315, and I believe I remember seeing 2010 jettas able to do the same mod.
Then we need to assume that a 2010's RNS can accept the signal from a 2014 Passat's camera module. A cursory look suggests they are different parts from the Golf/Jetta.

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Agree with disconnecting the battery to avoid the air bag warning light,
While the VCDS can clear errors. It can't prevent modules from being fried due to connection/disconnection while live.
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Your 2014 SEL has the Fender premium sound and the 2010 does not. Iím frankly not even sure if theyíre swappable due to them being completely different generations of cars. Considering reverse cameras werenít added to VWs until 2013, Iím not surprised itís not working.

But the difference in amplification is why youíre not getting any sound. You need to see if you can use VCDS to code your new unit to output a line-level signal that your Fender amp accepts.

Moreover, the RNS is a terrible unit with dizzying amount of revisions. Get an RCD-330 (specifically 6RD 035 187E) instead and enjoy Android Auto or CarPlay with your Fender system.

Also, itís dangerous to do these installs with the battery connected. The Airbag warning was triggered when you disconnected (or perhaps just moved) the triangle/hazard button.

Other then the cd player what would features would i lose going with the rcd 330? Thanks for the input.
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Other then the cd player what would features would i lose going with the rcd 330? Thanks for the input.
Integrated navigation, but if you have CarPlay, you can use Google Maps instead.
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Old May 4th, 2019, 15:45   #8
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Other then the cd player what would features would i lose going with the rcd 330? Thanks for the input.
pretty sure the RCD-330 doesnt have the Sirius receiver built in either.

But if you have Pandora or Spotify, that wouldnt be an issue.
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It sounds like you may have a battery issue.

What’s the original RNS-510 doing? I can probably repair it for you.
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Then we need to assume that a 2010's RNS can accept the signal from a 2014 Passat's camera module. A cursory look suggests they are different parts from the Golf/Jetta.
While the VCDS can clear errors. It can't prevent modules from being fried due to connection/disconnection while live.

Agreed as I believe we installed a jetta (MK5 Golf sedan) camera module in our 2012 Passat, its amazing at the cross shopping vw parts bin can get you.

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Y...02MHFBdEU/view
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There wasn’t an MK5 camera. There’s a MK6 camera. The metal on the trunk lid has to be cut to install a camera on the MK5.

The Passat, Tiguan, JSW, and MK6 sedan use the same camera. It may also fit an Audi Q5.
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Old June 10th, 2019, 11:41   #12
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It sounds like you may have a battery issue.

What’s the original RNS-510 doing? I can probably repair it for you.
I got the older rns510 working for a few weeks now. The original rns510 from the passat would work when it wanted to. Sometimes turning on and playing like normal and then going weeks without powering on. It also had a CD error so it didnt play CD. So sometimes it would power on but the screen would flicker.
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I got the older rns510 working for a few weeks now. The original rns510 from the passat would work when it wanted to. Sometimes turning on and playing like normal and then going weeks without powering on. It also had a CD error so it didnt play CD. So sometimes it would power on but the screen would flicker.
It sounds like you have a firmware issue and the laser in the DVD drive is bad. Both can be repaired.
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