Trade Wind
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I am curious if you would consider keeping your Passat if an emissions fix is offered. If not, why? That is the direction I am leaning right now, I am interested in arguments either way.
Trading in your VW TDI? What will be your next car
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surfstar
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Well, if power is what matters...
the performance order goes
VR6 > 1.8TSI > 2.0TDI
https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews...agen-passat-tdi-sel-premium-track-tested.html
https://www.edmunds.com/volkswagen/...olkswagen-passat-tsi-performance-testing.html
TSI 0-60 7.7
TDI 0-60 9.1
TDIs feel fast, because of generous torque at low rpms. This fast feeling while sipping fuel, is why they have devotees.
whatnxt
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Rico567
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I cannot think of any conditions under the current settlement to the CAS whereby we'd keep the car.
Here are the elements in my thinking that have convinced us to to the buyback:
1. We bought this car new in July '13, it now has @58K miles on it, so it should have around 80K on it by the end of next year. I've done all the buyback paperwork, and in September will secure a December 2018 date for a turn-in appointment.
2. VW is going to pay us @$27K for the car, only @$2K less than we bought it for.
3. At turn-in, this is going to be a 5 1/2 year old car with significant wear & tear on a number of expensive components. We will buy a brand new car to replace it, although it's an unknown at this time how much more that will cost.
4. This car has been our first diesel. We've really enjoyed it, especially the fuel efficiency, and it's been very little trouble. But the complex and somewhat fragile emissions systems hung onto these CR diesels do not bode well for maintenance expense down the road.
The downsides of doing the buyback are obvious:
1. There will likely be no diesel that is in the size range of the Passat that is not outrageously more expensive (and we will not consider a smaller car, nor an SUV, so things like the ephemeral Mazda CX-5 or Chevy Equinox are right out).
2. Keeping this car as long as we can also carries with it the risk that the car might well be totalled in an accident, in which case we'd probably not realize as much money for it.
3. We will face the additional expense of state sales tax when we buy a new car, which we would not do if we kept it and did the fix.
Given all of the above, we've decided to do the buyback.
VWMark
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Have you considered buying one of the new 2015 Passat TDIs that are now for sale? Do the 2 year lease and get $8500 off MSRP, pay off the lease with the buyback money, and then you basically have the same car, but newer and nicer, with a 162,000 mile warranty.
IndigoBlueWagon
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Don't worry about it. Someone else will buy it. One frustrating thing about looking for TDIs is there's always someone who'll pay more money than you're willing to for any given car.
2015vwgolfdiesel
Top Post Dawg
When I was selling my 2003 Golf GSL (gas), I found the the 2003 diesels were "book valued" at a substantially higher price.
High resale value is a point to factor in at buy time.
Blue_Hen_TDI
Top Post Dawg
Like me.
I am burning up the phone today. I'm about to move. I found a manual GSW but it's black. Trying to decide if I want to deal with that headache. My GTI is night blue and got dam does it ever get dirty fast. And a stiff breeze can make the paint swirl.
Blue_Hen_TDI
Top Post Dawg
Hey Tom, sending you a PM...
Kenshin
Member
If you want diesel wagon did you consider the BMW 328D Touring or the Jaguar F-Pace, both are comparable in price to the s90. Also next year Jaguar is releasing the XF asa sports back wagon and a E-Pace(small crossover), hoping both are in diesel in Canada/USA. And I think the X3 should be back in diesel too.
gcodori
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As the owner of a 2013 passat and I'm considering a 2012 E class diesel. Look at 60k miles and you can find them at about $24k.
I'm also looking at 535d but they are about $30k. With a sizable down you can get lower payments for a nicer and more powerful car.
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I'm also looking at 535d but they are about $30k. With a sizable down you can get lower payments for a nicer and more powerful car.
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SOCALGAL
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I bought a 2017 Wrangler Sahara and I LOVE IT!!!! 19 MPG and you can't wipe the smile off my face, I don't care the Jeep is awesome! This is how you purchase a Wrangler. Join the Wrangler Forum, go to the vendor thread and open Koons of Tyson's Corner (VA/DC). Craig's contact information is right there, he does the internet sales for a group buy. 6% off invoice for Sports and Sahara's and 5% off Rubicon's. It took me 3 weeks from factory order date to delivery. My local dealer would only go 1% below invoice. Get the quote from Craig and then try locally. I drove from Charlotte, NC, well worth the 6 hour drive to Koons. Then go onto Jeep.com and request brochures and updates, Jeep randomly sends out bonus cash or what we call Golden Tickets for $500 or $1,000 off a new vehicle. I was lucky and received a $500 ticket!
When we signed up for the buyback last July I had no idea what I was going to purchase other than an SUV (I missed my little Blazer). As soon as I logged onto the Jeep website I instantly knew I wanted a Wrangler and we went for a test drive and my husband said "I can't undo that" I was ruined. He gave me a budget and I read and researched everything I could to pull it off. We had 2 TDI's and he was getting a Silverado.
It's a Jeep not a car, every time you call a Jeep a car a baby kitten dies.
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PoochiePD
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Took long enough to go through the buyback process that the opportunity to switch to an SUV/Crossover arose. Something we were going to do again eventually.
Ended up with a 2009 Forester XT Limited. Bone stock, 1 owner, 94k miles. Lived in Florida until the turbo blew at 94k miles. A shop replaced the turbo but then was plagued by a constant overboost condition if you got into the throttle too hard. Bought at auction by a small dealership here in WI where it sat for a summer. They couldn't find the cause of the overboosting. They sold it to me for $8k, KBB dealer price was $14k at the time. Found a pink plastic BB lodged in an elbow coming off the turbo housing (the one that supplies boost pressure to the boost control system) so I carefully punched it out and it was gold. 45 minutes of diagnosing and fixing for free just saved me $6000!
Nowhere near as a refined driving experience as my Jetta but can't beat the versatility and the AWD is amazing. I was warned to sell it before the end of summer to avoid expensive fixes down the road but I'm staying on top of maintenance and the oil analysis at 110k came back perfect. Still deciding if I want to keep it or not.
Here it is on one of my many excursions offroad (usually while pulling the trailer) to get wood. Wouldn't think of it even in an Alltrack. 2+ more inches of ground clearance (with the larger tires).
Ended up with a 2009 Forester XT Limited. Bone stock, 1 owner, 94k miles. Lived in Florida until the turbo blew at 94k miles. A shop replaced the turbo but then was plagued by a constant overboost condition if you got into the throttle too hard. Bought at auction by a small dealership here in WI where it sat for a summer. They couldn't find the cause of the overboosting. They sold it to me for $8k, KBB dealer price was $14k at the time. Found a pink plastic BB lodged in an elbow coming off the turbo housing (the one that supplies boost pressure to the boost control system) so I carefully punched it out and it was gold. 45 minutes of diagnosing and fixing for free just saved me $6000!
Nowhere near as a refined driving experience as my Jetta but can't beat the versatility and the AWD is amazing. I was warned to sell it before the end of summer to avoid expensive fixes down the road but I'm staying on top of maintenance and the oil analysis at 110k came back perfect. Still deciding if I want to keep it or not.
Here it is on one of my many excursions offroad (usually while pulling the trailer) to get wood. Wouldn't think of it even in an Alltrack. 2+ more inches of ground clearance (with the larger tires).
joypeaceful
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I got a Prius to replace my 1999 jetta tdi...I'm very happy
Took long enough to go through the buyback process that the opportunity to switch to an SUV/Crossover arose. Something we were going to do again eventually.
Ended up with a 2009 Forester XT Limited...
Nice fix/score!
My wife loves her Subaru (replaced the 2012 Touareg which is waiting to go back).
We took it on a 2,000 trip two weeks ago and averaged 34mpg with it. And the AWD system is really good. Not quite like a Land Cruiser with locked diffs, but good!
And even though it is a '17 with only 6,000 miles, it has already gone a LOT farther than the '12 Touareg did without a CEL (the Touareg never made it through an OCI without a CEL).
TDIforDays
Veteran Member
Most likely a Macan S or Cayenne Diesel if there is no dix
Rob_MacCara
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Got a downpayment on an Audi Q3 dealer demo (under 10k kms) with all the bells and whistles. Just waiting for my letter of offer from Rice Krispies.
NAZ TDI
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Turning in my 2011 Jetta on Thursday but already have my next car: A "new" 2015 Jetta TDI! Would not have anything else!
Yawiney
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^Same here. My '10 goes in on Monday.
GoFaster
Moderator at Large
I had a rental Mazda 3 for a week on a business trip.
With a bit of uncertainty because you really never know how full the previous renter had filled it ... 42 mpg US. And it is nice to drive.
Worth checking out.
With a bit of uncertainty because you really never know how full the previous renter had filled it ... 42 mpg US. And it is nice to drive.
Worth checking out.
DieselMann99
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I've been giving some thought to a CPO 328d, maybe a 2014 which next year should cost about the same as what the BB is giving me, i.e., about $22k. I should be able to get one with about 25k miles. Maybe even a 328d wagon, but they're hard to find.
tomo366
TDI Lifer, Member #68
I just got a 328D off lease with 30K miles on it for 31900 this is a highly optioned car though the wagens are more...
DieselMann99
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What year? Is it CPO?
And how do you like it? And how would you compare it to the Jetta TDI? I've owned three 3 Series BMW's, so I know the car, I'm just asking about BMW's diesel, which I've never driven.
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I've driven both the 328d sedan and wagon. They are very nice cars, inside and out. Driving wise, they are more cushy than my JSW but the engine is less refined, meaning louder with greater vibration, mostly under load. My biggest fear is maintenance and repair cost in BMW-land. That and you can't get a manual transmission
DieselMann99
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Hmmm . . . I would not have expected that, given that the inline 6 and the 4 cyl engines are super smooth, especially the I-6. When it starts getting close, I'll test drive one or two.
Thank you for the heads up.