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Old May 8th, 2020, 00:17   #1
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Was driving today felt a little vibration and engine died. The car has a known bad flywheel that I was planning on fixing before 150k. I felt a vibration and then the rpm just dropped to zero no loud noises or anything, oil level still good. Turns over but won't start, the sound I'm getting almost sounds like similar to a compression test. Hopefully engine is still good, if flywheel did take out the engine what type of sound would have happened and what should I look for? Camshaft was replaced less then 10,000 miles ago at the dealer, all maintenance current.


No CE lights on or anything right now. Will take a deeper look at it tomorrow and also get another opinion from a VW tech soon. Located here in Aurora CO near Denver off I-70 if anyone is up for taking a look at it. Was driving to Boulder on HWY 36 today doing a lyft ride when this happened cruise control on at 80 mph. Any help and advice appreciated.

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Old May 8th, 2020, 04:24   #2
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Pull the timing cover and take a look at the timing belt.
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If it sounds like a compression test, sounds like a timing belt...

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Old May 8th, 2020, 09:03   #4
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If the timing belt broke the engine is toast right or at least the cylinder head? I'll go out and check here soon. A VW dealer changed the timing belt/camshaft less then 10k ago up in MT where I bought the car, should still be under warranty given I have the documents, could the bad dsg flywheel have anything to do with it?

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This thread exists in no small part due to dealers being unable to properly install a TDI timing belt:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=212873

One of my Golfs I own now I got on the cheap because a dealer timing belt job quickly resulted in several smashed valves, two bent rods, and three shattered pistons. Their response to the previous owner: "It's old, they break".

So don't expect much. Sorry.

I kept track one year, and came across a total of 17 botched dealer timing belt jobs... not all of which came into our shop under their own power. Most didn't.
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This thread exists in no small part due to dealers being unable to properly install a TDI timing belt:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=212873

One of my Golfs I own now I got on the cheap because a dealer timing belt job quickly resulted in several smashed valves, two bent rods, and three shattered pistons. Their response to the previous owner: "It's old, they break".

So don't expect much. Sorry.

I kept track one year, and came across a total of 17 botched dealer timing belt jobs... not all of which came into our shop under their own power. Most didn't.

Oilhammer, thank you for your input and advise. It is unfortunate that they can't preform quality work on these cars.


I just went out and took the timing belt cover off and it appears not to be broken. I wasn't able to inspect the lower half. If belt is broken it would be loose correct and I could pull it off? I'm still wondering if the FW shattered and took something out, how would I find that out? Also forgot to mention the car has been sitting sometimes for up to 3 months at a time when I was leaving town. I never let it sit longer then 3 months without at least a mile or two drive.

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My buddy had a similar issue but the tensioner failed and it chewed the teeth off the belt by the crank. You need to have someone crank the engine while the timing cover is off and see if the cam rotates.


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My buddy had a similar issue but the tensioner failed and it chewed the teeth off the belt by the crank. You need to have someone crank the engine while the timing cover is off and see if the cam rotates.


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Sounds similar to post #14 here, I checked my timing belt and it feels tight.




https://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=307553


See post #9, can someone tell me what the problem is in this picture?



https://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=432910

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The belt in that picture has no teeth. You should be able to watch the cam while someone else tries to start it and see if the cam is spinning with the rest of the engine.


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Sounds similar to post #14 here, I checked my timing belt and it feels tight.




https://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=307553


My belt is looking similar to this. See post #9, can someone tell me what the problem is in this picture?



https://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=432910
Sorry to tell you, but your head is probably toast.

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Old May 10th, 2020, 14:22   #11
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Sorry to tell you, but your head is probably toast.

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I just checked the belt and it's still in good shape, all the teeth are still on the belt. Possibly I got a bad tank of fuel from shell, it was a station with non shell fuel (this is not a shell product) at the pump.
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If all the teeth are present, set the engine to TDC to make sure it’s still in time. Then maybe you can consider the possibility of bad fuel.

When a belt breaks it disappears, wrapping around the crankshaft. It looks like this. My daughter bought this Jetta cheap because someone tried to go beyond 150k on a belt change.

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I just checked the belt and it's still in good shape, all the teeth are still on the belt. Possibly I got a bad tank of fuel from shell, it was a station with non shell fuel (this is not a shell product) at the pump.
Ok, so your statement above about your belt looking like the photo in that one post was missing the fact that the belt in that photo had a bunch of teeth missing. If you're not missing teeth, maybe it's not toast, unless it skipped time. You mentioned that it sounds like a compression test when you crank. Is there any way you could get a video of that?

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Ok, so your statement above about your belt looking like the photo in that one post was missing the fact that the belt in that photo had a bunch of teeth missing. If you're not missing teeth, maybe it's not toast, unless it skipped time. You mentioned that it sounds like a compression test when you crank. Is there any way you could get a video of that?

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I'll try and make a video, how would I post it here on TDICLUB?
Upload to Google photos or YouTube and post a link.

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