Dealers getting ready as well!

hex_915 · Nov 2, 2016

UPDATE:

Got a shareable link directly to the video rendering these screen grabs useless!

https://audi-academy.kzoplatform.com:443/#/containers/746236629705823640?autoplay=on

Visited a friend that works at a dealership with Audi as a sister store. I noticed they were watching a training video so naturally I stuck around and snuck in a few screen shots. Quality isn't the best, sorry!

Looks like the dealers that take in your old car will have first picks at getting them back when a fix is available. Seems like they're getting fixed in house

Checklist of possible Fix?

Most of the other stuff is just internal fixed ops mumbo jumbo

iadubber · Nov 2, 2016

wow thanks for that!

aja8888 · Nov 2, 2016

Neat, thanks!

BuyMeBackSoon · Nov 2, 2016

Interesting that vehicle is inspected for equipment after transaction. Isn't a bit late at that point? Are they going to send you a bill for missing spare tire?

durundal · Nov 2, 2016

BuyMeBackSoon said:
Interesting that vehicle is inspected for equipment after transaction. Isn't a bit late at that point? Are they going to send you a bill for missing spare tire?

Presumably it is to prevent people at the dealerships from stripping out stuff that VW now owns, or maybe for the leased vehicles?

Was there any indication of which generations the hardware shown was for?

saucer · Nov 2, 2016

Okay, so this is news to me... the thousands upon thousands of TDIs bought-back by VW are going to be "fixed" and then re-sold across North America?

hex_915 · Nov 2, 2016

durundal said:
Presumably it is to prevent people at the dealerships from stripping out stuff that VW now owns, or maybe for the leased vehicles?
Was there any indication of which generations the hardware shown was for?

Nothing specific, and yes, the post turn-in inspections are to make sure that nav radio didn't get swapped out for a base model radio and things of that sort.

bring · Nov 2, 2016

BuyMeBackSoon said:
Interesting that vehicle is inspected for equipment after transaction. Isn't a bit late at that point? Are they going to send you a bill for missing spare tire?

Might want to make sure dealer didn't strip it

bring · Nov 2, 2016

durundal said:
Was there any indication of which generations the hardware shown was for?

gotta be gen 1, right?

Airpizz6 · Nov 2, 2016

bring said:
Might want to make sure dealer didn't strip it

And to determine the cost of what needs to be replaced. That would probably play in the decision of the whether an individual car would be accepted by the dealer for resale or not.

gsmith2424 · Nov 2, 2016

bring said:
gotta be gen 1, right?

In the next to last picture it notes a Gen 3 car.

oilhammer · Nov 2, 2016

This is probably the most real information we've had here in a while, thanks for sharing.

compu_85 · Nov 2, 2016

oilhammer said:
This is probably the most real information we've had here in a while, thanks for sharing.

2x!!! I wonder what that rather large looking cat fits. And why are there three exhaust clamps next to it

-J

speedrye · Nov 2, 2016

Awesome spy shots!

bhtooefr · Nov 2, 2016

I spy 1K0 part numbers, which would be Mk5 Golf, implying that it's Gen 1.

meerschm · Nov 2, 2016

compu_85 said:
2x!!! I wonder what that rather large looking cat fits. And why are there three exhaust clamps next to it

-J

below photo shows gen 1 NOX trap (aka NOX CAT) and the DPF/DOC, with some of the tubing to pressure sensors.

top is the two-part 2009 and early 2010, lower example, is the separated design with added joint in the later cars (to 2014)

looks to me like a new version of the gen 1 NOX cat.

three clamps would be for before the NOX cat, after the NOX cat, and after the exhaust flap, which attaches to the NOX cat.

my guess is that rectangular box includes another clamp to connect one side of the egr filter.

my primary question still is if the 2009 and early 2010 will also get a replacement DPF since they are welded to the NOX cat. as in the lower version in the above photo.

bring · Nov 2, 2016

why does a part that looks like it goes under the car have a reflector on it?

hex_915 · Nov 2, 2016

compu_85 said:
2x!!! I wonder what that rather large looking cat fits. And why are there three exhaust clamps next to it
-J

possibly just a "stock" type photo? Nothing in the video confirmed anything regarding the fix other than they're working on it diligently.

meerschm · Nov 2, 2016

saucer said:
Okay, so this is news to me... the thousands upon thousands of TDIs bought-back by VW are going to be "fixed" and then re-sold across North America?

This is pretty well spelled out.

only pending part is the approval of the fix.

meerschm · Nov 2, 2016

bring said:
why does a part that looks like it goes under the car have a reflector on it?

that looks to me like a plastic plug to keep the filter clean until it is installed on the car.

tjdeerslayer37 · Nov 2, 2016

Thanks for the pictures!

nattyboh2027 · Nov 2, 2016

Amazing! Cool points to hex_915!

Keep this thread going!

meerschm · Nov 2, 2016

Yes, thanks a lot.

also note that this looks like it was captured in a Toronto dealer.

(the training video was prepared in Toronto, or using software which had that identity.)

oilhammer · Nov 2, 2016

That EGR filter tube does look different than the current one. And the big part looks like the existing NOx-reduction catalyst (lean NOx trap) but a little larger maybe. This would of course not work on a 2009 model without also changing the DPF/oxy cat assembly.

bhtooefr · Nov 2, 2016

Not necessarily - it could've been an example slide or something.

Something interesting from that, though - the form for a Gen 3 shows an LNT being added. Going to the BMW-esque LNT+SCR setup?

I'm still sticking with the parts picture being Gen 1 components, though - especially because this is in an Audi context, Audi's only Gen 3 car is a Mk7-based car, they don't have a Gen 2 car, and their only Gen 1 car is Mk5-based. Also, being Audi, there wouldn't be any discussion of replacing the DPF assembly on a 2009 - the A3 TDI launched in 2010.

nattyboh2027 · Nov 2, 2016

In case the dealership sneaks in a stripping of something and tries to blame me for something is missing, I will be taking photos and taking video footage through my GoPro before handing the keys off.

bring · Nov 2, 2016

meerschm said:
that looks to me like a plastic plug to keep the filter clean until it is installed on the car.

Hahahaha - you're right - my eyes are deceiving me.....

meerschm · Nov 2, 2016

the parts in the photo are consistent with the reported gen 1 fix

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.php?p=5095172&postcount=3

Quote:
3.2.1 Require the installation of a new exhaust flap, EGR filter, and NOx Trap
that meets the specifications of BASF TEX2064, as proposed by Settling Defendants to
EPA and CARB on January 28, 2016, or, subject to EPA/CARB approval, such other
functionally and effectively equivalent hardware or software, provided that Settling
Defendants propose such other hardware or software in the applicable Proposed
Emissions Modification.

k1xv · Nov 2, 2016

No bullet point:

* Are doors/windows/hood/trunk lid/seats still intact on car?

No? That must mean we are allowed to remove them!!

hex_915 · Nov 2, 2016

You never got this from me...

https://audi-academy.kzoplatform.com:443/#/containers/746236629705823640?autoplay=on

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